Christian/Non-christian Divorce Rate

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Why do you think the divorce rate is about the same for both christians and non-christians?
What do you think some of the contributing factors might be?
Does this play a part in why you are still single?
 
Jullianna said:
Why do you think the divorce rate is about the same for both christians and non-christians?
What do you think some of the contributing factors might be?
Does this play a part in why you are still single?
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I'm not sure but, I feel like you are taking my talking points from chat and turning them all into threads. LOL

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And yes, if my spidey sense detects that a woman might have a inclination toward divorce being an option I will run.

Because much like I talked about how Abraham Lincoln held himself to a higher moral standard than the rules of the society of his day, I believe that Christians today are not doing that as much.
 
LOL! Wow! I need to go into chat more often then! :) I missed this!
 
Jullianna said:
Why do you think the divorce rate is about the same for both christians and non-christians?
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Because the focus of the church has turned from holiness to happiness. It seems that those christians that I've known who have gotten divorced it was all about how they weren't happy anymore instead of focusing on what would fix the problem. Of course I think this comes down to the church, at least a huge percentage of it, rejecting biblical roles and instructions regarding marriage.

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What do you think some of the contributing factors might be?
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The church not properly mentoring young couples.
The lack of community in many churches in which case many divorces come as a surprise to those in the church. I've heard this so many times, "I can't believe they're getting divorced, they seemed like such a happy couple.
The church reaching the point of just accepting divorce as a necessary evil.
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Does this play a part in why you are still single?
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Nope. I've had numerous good examples of what a christian marriage should be. Even though my folks had their serious issues when I was a kid, they stuck it out and made it work.
 
Jullianna said:
Why do you think the divorce rate is about the same for both christians and non-christians?
What do you think some of the contributing factors might be?
Does this play a part in why you are still single?
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1. Statistics regarding the rate of divorce are heavily eschewed. A lot of people who conduct them are as in favor of monogamy as George C. Scott's character in Dr. Strangelove.

2. It's a combination of us having lost our salt and the fact that Christians are people too to be frank. As with other areas of life, we are supposed to be better but are often not when taken as a whole.

3. Call me naive and idealistic, but I don't fear divorce. I guess I just figure if I continue going through all the hopeless relationships I have, I'll eventually find the right person and when I do I'll value her enough to work at the relationship to keep it stellar.
 
Playing into Ritter's comments, the Christians who got divorced, were they divorced before they were saved or after?

And Jules, the reason the divorce rate is so high is that very few value it anymore. You know that old saying of not throwing out the baby with the bathwater? Well, that's basically what a lot of people are doing. They are divorcing for petty reasons. Yes, there are some that are very serious: abuse and adultry being among them. But that's not what I'm seeing. People are divorcing because one person wants to live in one state while another wants to live in another. They just don't want to be married any longer. They got in one little tiny fight and so now feel they have to break up (just like they did with their bf/gf back in high school). Or here's the real quicker, they have nothing in common and don't even want to try to find common ground.
 
not really.... just waiting for the right one..God's will..........besides singles are always ready to mingle!!!


Glory to the risen king
 
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Because the focus of the church has turned from holiness to happiness. It seems that those christians that I've known who have gotten divorced it was all about how they weren't happy anymore instead of focusing on what would fix the problem. Of course I think this comes down to the church, at least a huge percentage of it, rejecting biblical roles and instructions regarding marriage.
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Yes, this. People go into the relationship focusing on what they can get out of it rather than how they can lay their own wants/needs down to serve the other person (like the Bible says to).

Also, a huge percentage of people who are classified as "Christians" don't actually believe. A study by the Barna group revealed that only 9% of adult Americans have a Biblical worldview (source The Barna Group - Barna Survey Examines Changes in Worldview Among Christians over the Past 13 Years )

For the purposes of the survey, a “biblical worldview” was defined as believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today. In the research, anyone who held all of those beliefs was said to have a biblical worldview.
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In my opinion, if someone does not at least have a Biblical worldview, that person can't actually be considered a Christian. Wish they did a study of divorce among Christians...
 
SOME churches may run church based on ways to keep people in the pews.
Many of these methods focus on the shallow.
These methods include entertainment, visual optics and sound.
When you sow shallowness and lack of depth, you reap shallowness and lack of depth.

So you have all these people sprouting shallowness and lack of depth.
A total failure of true discipleship.

These people with shallow fruits then jump in to marriage.

Shallow fruited people then exit said marriage due to their lack of depth.

In other words, I think the lack of difference in divorce rates is a symptom of a much greater problem.

DISCLAIMER: I know there are a guzillion shades of nuance that may not apply to what I just said. In general, I think what I said applies to things in general. Please don't flame/jump on me/distort because my general statement steps on the toes of your nuance.
 
1still_waters said:
SOME churches may run church based on ways to keep people in the pews.
Many of these methods focus on the shallow.
These methods include entertainment, visual optics and sound.
When you sow shallowness and lack of depth, you reap shallowness and lack of depth.

So you have all these people sprouting shallowness and lack of depth.
A total failure of true discipleship.

These people with shallow fruits then jump in to marriage.

Shallow fruited people then exit said marriage due to their lack of depth.

In other words, I think the lack of difference in divorce rates is a symptom of a much greater problem.

DISCLAIMER: I know there are a guzillion shades of nuance that may not apply to what I just said. In general, I think what I said applies to things in general. Please don't flame/jump on me/distort because my general statement steps on the toes of your nuance.
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It's so scary when we agree
 
Why do you think the divorce rate is about the same for both christians and non-christians?

Some folks say they are christians, but as we've seen in these forums, a lot of them don't really know what it means, so I think we need to take that into consideration when we read these stats.

What do you think some of the contributing factors might be?

I have seen these things be common factors:

Marrying too young just so they can have sex.
Not being mature enough to understand the difference between being in a marriage and playing house.
Unrealistic expections of one another. Christians aren't perfect.
Not fully understanding the roles of husbands/wives in marriage. His way is the way that works, not a variation thereof.
Marrying the first person who asks or will say yes because it seems like the "grown up" thing to do or because all of their friends are doing it...or even because families pushed them into it.

Does this play a part in why you are still single?

Only in that I prefer to take things slowly to avoid making a mistake in the first place.
 
What are the stats of how many are Christian in America? I know in Australia maybe 60-65% call themselves Christian - yet I would estimate that well less than 10% truly are.
 
Stuey said:
What are the stats of how many are Christian in America? I know in Australia maybe 60-65% call themselves Christian - yet I would estimate that well less than 10% truly are.
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There was a pastor on the radio just a few days ago who said that only about 15% of all those who say they are christian (in america) actually try to live their day- to day lives according to their faith. I don't remember if it was a survey or a study but he said he got that info from somewhere.
 
I think 1stil_waters and Jullianna covered most of my thoughts. I'm wondering if 1still_waters is going to be putting disclaimers on his disclaimers before too long. :D

People just aren't taught to stay anymore. No one wants to put forth the effort it takes to keep something worthwhile. I've never been married, but I know for a fact it would be A LOT of hard work. I don't have some fairytale dream of it being anything less than that. I'm sure it would be worth all the work required to keep the relationship strong though.
Divorce is just sad for all involved. I can't help but think of the kids too.

I'm also thinking of a song by a band with Christian members. They aren't afraid to tackle the messy stuff in life.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XXW2I68IXE[/video]
I could see it being from the perspective of someone going through a divorce, or a child in a broken home...perhaps some other things.

To answer the last question in the original post: I'd say it does, in a way, play a part in why I'm still single. I believe in marriage once. If I marry a woman I'm staying..period. If she were to change, go down the wrong path, and leave me I do not see myself remarrying. So for me it's a one time thing. Putting that much importance on it certainly makes me more careful in who I'd even consider. Someone who didn't believe like me on that is out of the question....Very important topic.
 
zeroturbulence said:
There was a pastor on the radio just a few days ago who said that only about 15% of all those who say they are christian (in america) actually try to live their day- to day lives according to their faith. I don't remember if it was a survey or a study but he said he got that info from somewhere.
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wow, Gabe...
 
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