Christianity is not under attack . . .

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ResidentAlien

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Essentially, it is being ignored by mainstream society and this has a lot of people furious. I believe this is the underlying reason for the uprising of Christian nationalism. That is, "They won't listen? Then we'll make 'em listen!"

We were told these days will come. Christian nationalism is an unbiblical reaction to what scripture clearly tells us must happen. If scripture tells of a latter-day Cyrus (Trump) that will come, I'd really like to know where it is.
 

ResidentAlien

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Yes. It says war with the saints. I was just wondering if you've read about it.
Yes, the beast will make war with the saints but that's still further down the road. When the beast makes war with the saints, everyone will know it. No one is making war with the saints right now, at least not in the US.
 
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Yes, the beast will make war with the saints but that's still further down the road. When the beast makes war with the saints, everyone will know it. No one is making war with the saints right now, at least not in the US.
First, I don't come to Revelation with Dispensational Premillennial lenses on, but when you talk about godless and lawless days to come, and deny that godlessness and lawlessness can only be known by violence and oppression against the godly, which the law forbids, then what are you talking about?
 

Mem

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I wonder. If one were to assert that the war with the saints is currently engaged, then it they would likely be characterized as fanciful. However, are those that would characterize one in such a way actually expecting a literal dragon to emerge out of the Pacific Ocean? A veritable Godzilla?
 

ResidentAlien

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First, I don't come to Revelation with Dispensational Premillennial lenses on, but when you talk about godless and lawless days to come, and deny that godlessness and lawlessness can only be known by violence and oppression against the godly, which the law forbids, then what are you talking about?
I have a feeling no matter what I say you'll still not understand. I also have a feeling you have an opinion you'd like to share, so just go ahead and share; this interrogation by you is getting tiresome.
 

Wansvic

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... If scripture tells of a latter-day Cyrus (Trump) that will come, I'd really like to know where it is.
Please take a look at the attached video. I think you will be shocked at a biblical parallel concerning Trump, the Clinton's, Obama and possibly the upcoming election as well.

 

ResidentAlien

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Please take a look at the attached video. I think you will be shocked at a biblical parallel concerning Trump, the Clinton's, Obama and possibly the upcoming election as well.

Thanks but no thanks. If you know of any scriptures you feel point to a latter-day Cyrus, just post it.
 

Wansvic

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Thanks but no thanks. If you know of any scriptures you feel point to a latter-day Cyrus, just post it.
I actually expected that response. But shared it anyway with the hope you might at least view the video and share your thoughts. It does reference the biblical story of the progression of power associated with Ahab, Jezebel, Jehoram, and Jehu. Their actions, years in office, etc. parallel the modern day politicians. The video's content, I believe. can assist those on the fence regarding the upcoming election.

Dan 2:20-22
Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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op: christians NOT 'under attack'?
We're not? So, we can just conveniently ignore this?:

"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in The Power of His Might.​
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the​
wiles of the devil.​
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against​
powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual​
wickedness in high places.​
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to​
withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore,​
having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of​
righteousness;​

And your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace; Above​
all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all​
the fiery darts of the wicked.​
And take the helmet of salvation, and The Sword of The Spirit, Which​
Is The Word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in​
The Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication​
for all saints;​
And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my​
mouth boldly, to make known The Mystery of The Gospel,"​
(Ephesians 6:10-19 AV)​
Amen.

NOT 'under attack'? = Surely you jest, eh?
 

Embankment

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I believe that God’s kingdom is growing like never before. It’s only in the last 20 of so years that believers have been able to connect with others all around the world as if they were in the same room. I can see spiritual ideas being clarified and weird beliefs being squashed. It’s the best time in history.
 

Cameron143

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I believe that God’s kingdom is growing like never before. It’s only in the last 20 of so years that believers have been able to connect with others all around the world as if they were in the same room. I can see spiritual ideas being clarified and weird beliefs being squashed. It’s the best time in history.
I believe you are correct about the growth of the church, but where the church is growing, it is under persecution. This has been the general rule throughout history.