Christians and Medical Cannabis

[Beebee7]

So many banned people in this feed. Glad to see free speech alive and well in the Christian forum.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

I don't see an issue with using medical cannabis from a Biblical standpoint. However, cannabis is likely addictive so I would be very careful in using it, just as I would with using other addictive drugs such as opioids, etc.

 

[Oncefallen]

So many banned people in this feed. Glad to see free speech alive and well in the Christian forum.

There are four users who happened to post in this thread that are banned and none of them were banned because of activity within this thread.

Three were banned because they were pushing heresies and the fourth because they continued to be a jerk after numerous warning.

Of course though you had to revive a 10 year old thread to comment on your disdain for how this site dealt with users that you have had no dealings with.

 

[Magenta]

There are many guests also, which means they left of their own volition.

Much of this is to be expected in a thread as old as this one.

 

[Moses_Young]

There are many guests also, which means they left of their own volition.

Much of this is to be expected in a thread as old as this one.

Lol. Yeah. I thought pretty much everyone used medical cannabis these days. It's almost like "Should Christians go to the doctor?"

 

[mrsjones]

I cut my thumb pretty badly. Enough to need stitches. I was thankful that shepherds purse grows in my garden. It stopped the bleeding and sealed the cut with applied pressure of this herb. Blessings. This is what shepherds would use on sheep if needed in the fields. Google it its very interesting.

 

[johnTheComforted]

The only thing I personally have against weed is the addiction (just like so many other things) and the law of land saying it's wrong (which depends). Besides these, I personally see no problem with it, emphasis on PERSONALLY. The bible teaches to obey the laws of the land. The bible teaches that we shouldn't be drunk with wine ( the idea is that people who were drunk in those days were noted to misbehave, not the cancelling out of wine) which can also be compared to weed. _Take but do not get addicted and misbehave_

I believe the bible teaches man's fall has caused so many things to be corrupted, ranging from animals to plants, but can anyone for certain say what weed was like before man's fall? No. Most believe because of its mind altering effects, it's outrightly bad. Well, what is the metric for knowing mind altering is good or not. I mean mind altering caused by weed could be that a person becomes more agile as an athlete, attentive to sounds as a sound engineer, is able to distinguish between colours as a designer, is able to analyse things, eat better, etc.

I personally have consumed this plant to aid in my studies although there are medical drugs doctors would that I take in the class of Nootropics which enhance concentration and aids in studies and memory.

I believe all these things should be done in moderation.

 

[Willow]

Why don't Christians use Cannabis for health issues? It is legal in some places, even for recreation. Like wine used for the stomach or for a wedding celebration in the Bible, cannabis is from God. Like all things that God gave us, everything he created has it's purpose for moderate use. Cannabis is not a chemical concoction invented in a lab by a corporate interest.

Have you ever heard of Medical Viagra? Is it a "Drug"? When did a "Drug" developed solely for the purpose of having more sex become "Medical"? Yet, Christians use it. What about all the anti-depressants and behavioral drugs that we pump into children; or what about weight loss drugs? Not to mention and all the known side affects.

We take drugs because we don't know how to live, or use the medicine that God gave us. I thank God for giving me Cannabis, otherwise, I might ignorantly submit to taking "drugs" like so many "Christians". That's not the only natural medicine I use, there's also a world of proven herbs and spices that the artificial world doesn't acknowledge. Often the corporate interests, influences authorities so that we're only allowed to use the product they produce from a plant. Which in turn alters the healing properties of the natural source so that it doesn't work as it should. None of what I'm saying is new knowledge.

God didn't create our bodies to process the chemicals that we put into them by means of drugs or food products. If we want to heal we must turn to God and what he has given us. Of course, we are obligated by God to obey the laws of the land as long as they don't obligate us to disobey God. If we live in a "Free" state then you only have to see what the Bible says at Gen 1:24, that God made all seed and plant and it is good.

All "Good" things in moderation. I'm not saying that all drugs that the doctor prescribes is bad, but we need to examine ourselves and care for our health within the letter of the law. And where the law says Cannabis is legal, God approves too. It's done wonders for my chronic pain and for others in my family who use it for various medical conditions. We have reduced our medical health care needs because we aren't having all the illness/side effects caused by some of the drugs we were provided by our doctors. Sometimes the cannabis simply allows someone to take less of a dangerous drug. What's wrong with that?

If a Christian chooses to use cannabis for medical conditions they should abide by the local law. If a Christian chooses to use cannabis for recreational purpose as they would alcohol, then they should likewise, abide by the local law (age and use requirements) and God's law of moderation.

If you disagree with the premiss of this post. Please use scriptural counsel and reference to prove your point. Keep in mind, that if you are a true Christian, you should appreciate that the only opinion that really matters, is God's opinion. If you have a problem with what he created, then your case is with him, not me. My intention is to open up an intelligent discussion based on God's principles about the things that he has provided for us.

I have a few friends that use it for pain relief etc. Medical usage only. I don't see an issue with it. I figure that is between them and God. But have found that a research was out where it helps children who have between 50-100 seizures a day. Causing them to be alot less frequent.

 

[joecoten]

There are four users who happened to post in this thread that are banned and none of them were banned because of activity within this thread.

Three were banned because they were pushing heresies and the fourth because they continued to be a jerk after numerous warning.

Of course though you had to revive a 10 year old thread to comment on your disdain for how this site dealt with users that you have had no dealings with.

I appreciate you clearing the air. Kudos.

 

[joecoten]

Though I don't use cannabis, if someone has a legit medical reason to use it and it can keep the person from using an opioid, I think that's great. This is a moot point in my country as cannabis use is legal and many of my neighbors grow it in their back yard.
Opioid overdose deaths are down significantly in Canada since cannabis was legalized. Though illicit fentanyl use in my town is said to be high and young people still die from it.
Yuval Harari's plan is to keep the useless masses doped up and playing videos games. Obviously my prime minister is in agreement as his election platform was vote for him and he'd legalize cannabis. For once a politician kept his word.
Harari and Trudeau are both members of Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum. One-world government, here we come. We are soon getting digital I.D.s in Canada. I'll need it to access government services and get my prescriptions. I'm on long-term disability. Sigh.

 

[iamsoandso]

lol, back in the early 90's I worked for RiceTec https://www.ricetec.com/ in Alvin. It's actually on the outskirts by Chocolate Bayou and Liverpool TX. but still in the Alvin city limits. I didn't work there but about a year and a half because I didn't feel good about the things I was doing to the Rice. Anyway if you knew what went on in laboratories to the seeds that are developed to grow food in mass production(think CRISPR) it would make your head spin. People especially in the USA eat these things everyday of their lives. It's in every pre-battered box of food at the stores and every can on every isle in every food store in the US.

Now think "Agricultural Food Scientist"(official title) and wonder to yourselves what they do. And then think "cookies" for instance did you know that there's one set of ingredients for the ones exported to Mexico and another for the ones exported to Asia? It's all about genetic pools within a population and so the USA(melting pot of genetics) require an different recipe,,well that is if your mind is set on adding different approved ingredients that would cause a craving for an product,,,you know that snacky sort of feeling you get when you start off with two or three and then the whole bags gone. Drugs are odd like that in that not all of them give you a buzzy sort of feeling in fact some of the most addictive drugs known to man don't give you any noticeable feeling of intoxication...

 

[joecoten]

lol, back in the early 90's I worked for RiceTec https://www.ricetec.com/ in Alvin. It's actually on the outskirts by Chocolate Bayou and Liverpool TX. but still in the Alvin city limits. I didn't work there but about a year and a half because I didn't feel good about the things I was doing to the Rice. Anyway if you knew what went on in laboratories to the seeds that are developed to grow food in mass production(think CRISPR) it would make your head spin. People especially in the USA eat these things everyday of their lives. It's in every pre-battered box of food at the stores and every can on every isle in every food store in the US.

Now think "Agricultural Food Scientist"(official title) and wonder to yourselves what they do. And then think "cookies" for instance did you know that there's one set of ingredients for the ones exported to Mexico and another for the ones exported to Asia? It's all about genetic pools within a population and so the USA(melting pot of genetics) require an different recipe,,well that is if your mind is set on adding different approved ingredients that would cause a craving for an product,,,you know that snacky sort of feeling you get when you start off with two or three and then the whole bags gone. Drugs are odd like that in that not all of them give you a buzzy sort of feeling in fact some of the most addictive drugs known to man don't give you any noticeable feeling of intoxication...

Such as nicotine.

 

[joecoten]

I still struggle with nicotine. I vape. On the bright side I have misused or abused drugs in over 18 years. I thank the Lord for that.

 

[iamsoandso]

Such as nicotine.

Nicotine is a puzzle of it's own that is,,,in the description's given of the indigenous peoples of the Americas(Tobacco was discovered when they discovered the Americas and then introduced to the the rest of the world) was that they were a spectacular of health and could run all day. So go figure the American Indians used Tobacco both by smoking it in pipes and chewing it but never were short of breath,developed COPD's ? Think Aspartame,sucrose,fructose ect. https://www.arizonaadvancedmedicine.com/articles/2013/june/aspartame-nutrasweet-addiction/

 

[joecoten]

Nicotine is a puzzle of it's own that is,,,in the description's given of the indigenous peoples of the Americas(Tobacco was discovered when they discovered the Americas and then introduced to the the rest of the world) was that they were a spectacular of health and could run all day. So go figure the American Indians used Tobacco both by smoking it in pipes and chewing it but never were short of breath,developed COPD's ? Think Aspartame,sucrose,fructose ect. https://www.arizonaadvancedmedicine.com/articles/2013/june/aspartame-nutrasweet-addiction/

Perhaps due to their physical activity and healthy diet, any sediment in their lungs was expelled. I've found that due to my singing daily, I clear colds and even Covid out of my lungs. So I imagine running all day would do the same.

 

[iamsoandso]

Perhaps due to their physical activity and healthy diet, any sediment in their lungs was expelled. I've found that due to my singing daily, I clear colds and even Covid out of my lungs. So I imagine running all day would do the same.

Your not smoking the same Tobacco they did,,your smoking Tobacco that has had many other things enhanced or added to it (Nicotine, pesticides,herbicides ect.) ...

 

[iamsoandso]

Now look at medicinal Marijuana and see what your smoking.... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33960612/

 

[Gideon300]

I know a "Christian" (that's what he claims) who is a long time marijuana user. I know several others who used then gave up when they were saved. The long time user is a musician and school teacher. He is also away with the pixies. He believes that "Star Wars" is, in effect, a documentary. He believes that the world is surrounded by invisible aliens who communicate with people on earth. He hears voices in his head telling him these things.

Psychotic drugs like marijuana, LSD, some mushrooms and such are dangerous. Not everyone is affected the same way, but no one can be sure how they will be affected. For sure long time marijuana use is not good. Those kinds of drugs open people up to the satanic realm. Medicinal cannabis at least has some controls and limited amounts of THC. The Christian should listen to his conscience.

When I was in hospital, I was in great pain for several days. I was given endone orally and one time, morphine by injection. They had little affect on me apart from dulling the pain. I was given fentanyl one time. I became instantly euphoric, a wonderful feeling as if i had not a care in the world. This bothered me a lot. I could see how easy it would be to become addicted. So I refused the next time it was offered.

We need to be careful with drugs. We should not be using them to unwind or relax. We have the peace of Christ; that should be enough.

 

[Gideon300]

If alcohol isn't for pleasure then why is it available everywhere. How is it that there are bars and restaurants serving alcohol for anything other than pain killer? Are you saying that you don't consume alcohol at all unless you suffer pain? As for mental anguish people are way more effective chemicals prescribed by their doctors. But for mild depression, cannabis can be much less invasive than chemical "Drugs". It's not addictive. There's a difference between Addiction and Habit.

I've seen the destruction that long term cannabis use has on some people. And no one can predict how an individual will react. People may not get physically addicted, but psychological addiction is just as bad. If alcohol came on the market now, it would likely be outlawed along with the other drugs. It is just as harmful. I've never heard of someone having a cigarette, getting mad and beating someone up. Alcohol is a factor in all kinds of crime. Just because something is legal does not make it good.

 

[GaryA]

I still struggle with nicotine. I vape. On the bright side I have misused or abused drugs in over 18 years. I thank the Lord for that.

Is there not a 'not' missing in a place whereby if it were placed there would not cause confusion concerning what you have not done in over 18 years...?

But, the real question is - were you vaping at the time when you did not put the 'not' in the place whereby since it was not placed it did not help the sentence to make more sense?

Did I not say all of that not nonsense plainly enough?

(the truth of your real intent seems to have been preserved by the word 'in')