Christ's Gospel? Paul's Gospel?

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PROVING IT IS THE PARABLE OF THE TREE. YOU CAN TELL A TREE BY IT'S FRUIT. ROMANS;12; 2 :And be not conformed to this world,but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,that ye may prove what is that good,and acceptable,and perfect, will of God. 2 CORINTHIANS; 8; 8 ;I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the fowardness of others,and to prove the sincerity of your love. GALATIANS: 6;4; But let every man prove his own work,and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 1 THESSALONIANS;5; 21; Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.
 
1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
1Co 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
 
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 
HEBREWS; 5; 13-14; For every one that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness for he is a babe.(baby) 14; But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,even those by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
 
JaumeJ said:
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
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Why don't you explain to us what YOU believe the gospel of Christ IS and also what YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the gospel? (Romans 1:16)
 
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HEBREWS; 5; 13-14; For every one that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness for he is a babe.(baby) 14; But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,even those by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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So those who are sad about what Paul has written are babies?
 
John146 said:
We see it playing out in the four gospels, but the understanding of what is going on was revealed to the Apostle Paul.
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God’s understanding does not come from Paul the creature.

The whole bible is the gospel from the first words in Genesis (In the beginning) to the last word in Revelation(Amen) .The traditions of men has tried to reduce it to four chapters or books

It has nothing to do with the person of Paul or Balaam's ass another creature that God put the words of His gospel on its lips. God is not served by human hands or the lips of creatures that he used to represent unconverted man. Paul preached Christ, not Paul.

Paul as Saul walking by sight, preached Paul as Saul before His conversion
 
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Peope are still stuck on the foundation and cannot build any further,because they do not have the knowledge. Follow the blue prints which are the revelation of Jesus Christ and then can you begin to build from the foundation.
 
Gabriel2020 said:
Peope are still stuck on the foundation and cannot build any further,because they do not have the knowledge. Follow the blue prints which are the revelation of Jesus Christ and then can you begin to build from the foundation.
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What's the revelation of Christ?
 
John146 said:
We see it playing out in the four gospels, but the understanding of what is going on was revealed to the Apostle Paul.
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To you and any who whould agree with this outlandish declaration, Paul may be a teacher of the Word, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is delivered by Jesus Christ and preached to all the world by the Twelve as is written within the gospels.

I know by His Holy Spirit His Gospel for I was drawn to Jesus Christ without being guided by a person but by the Holy Spirit.

Do not say the Holy Spirit cannot nor does not always deliver the undersanding of Jesus Christ by the fourGospels for they ae the Gospel of Jesus christ only. To say Paul gabve more than did God in Jesusw Christ is unheard of except by unbelievers of Messiah.

Now you go ahead and learn of Paul and do all you think you learn of him, but I TELL YOU according to the Word that learning of Jesus Christ is the easiest manner to follow Him. He invites all to learn of Him but most refuse choosing traditions of man over the Word. Go ahead, make your life complicated by learning Paul,but besure to satisfy others on all of his contrdictions,.

I find none in Jesus Christ's teaching, no contradictions just salvation....go ahead.
 
JaumeJ said:
To you and any who whould agree with this outlandish declaration, Paul may be a teacher of the Word, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is delivered by Jesus Christ and preached to all the world by the Twelve as is written within the gospels.

I know by His Holy Spirit His Gospel for I was drawn to Jesus Christ without being guided by a person but by the Holy Spirit.

Do not say the Holy Spirit cannot nor does not always deliver the undersanding of Jesus Christ by the fourGospels for they ae the Gospel of Jesus christ only. To say Paul gabve more than did God in Jesusw Christ is unheard of except by unbelievers of Messiah.

Now you go ahead and learn of Paul and do all you think you learn of him, but I TELL YOU according to the Word that learning of Jesus Christ is the easiest manner to follow Him. He invites all to learn of Him but most refuse choosing traditions of man over the Word. Go ahead, make your life complicated by learning Paul,but besure to satisfy others on all of his contrdictions,.

I find none in Jesus Christ's teaching, no contradictions just salvation....go ahead.
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you have, for months, called me a lair and accused me of harassing you because you stated in a older thread that " real , true mature Christians do not need to read Paul, they can learn everything from Christ" then, you went on to say that " Paul's letters addressed Churches with problems, and if you do not have those problems, you have no need to read the letters" .

well, I'll be waiting for an apology from you for all the false allegations you have lobbed at me, because you just basically said the same thing again.
 
JaumeJ said:
To you and any who whould agree with this outlandish declaration, Paul may be a teacher of the Word, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is delivered by Jesus Christ and preached to all the world by the Twelve as is written within the gospels.
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Why don't you explain to us what YOU believe the gospel of Jesus Christ IS that Jesus Christ preached to all the world by the Twelve prior to the cross?

I know by His Holy Spirit His Gospel for I was drawn to Jesus Christ without being guided by a person but by the Holy Spirit.
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What do YOU believe His Gospel IS?

Do not say the Holy Spirit cannot nor does not always deliver the undersanding of Jesus Christ by the fourGospels for they ae the Gospel of Jesus christ only. To say Paul gabve more than did God in Jesusw Christ is unheard of except by unbelievers of Messiah.
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It sounds like you have not yet made the complete transition to the New Covenant. :(

Now you go ahead and learn of Paul and do all you think you learn of him, but I TELL YOU according to the Word that learning of Jesus Christ is the easiest manner to follow Him. He invites all to learn of Him but most refuse choosing traditions of man over the Word.
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What traditions of man?

Go ahead, make your life complicated by learning Paul, but besure to satisfy others on all of his contrdictions,. I find none in Jesus Christ's teaching, no contradictions just salvation....go ahead.
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So you are saying that Paul, who is a servant of Jesus Christ and was called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God is full of contradictions? What Paul wrote IS inspired by God, so you are saying that God's Word has contradictions. Wow! That explains a lot! :eek:
 
Things that are unlearned to some who will not allow themselves to be taught by the holy spirit. The deeper things which are known as the deeper thoughts of God. They are all in the scriptures, but some people cannot comprehend them. Forever learning and never coming to the truth of God., Even this scripture they cannot comprehend.leaning to their own understanding without revelation from the holy spirit.
 
Gabriel2020 said:
Peope are still stuck on the foundation and cannot build any further,because they do not have the knowledge. Follow the blue prints which are the revelation of Jesus Christ and then can you begin to build from the foundation.
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There is only 1 foundation, any other foundation you try to build on will crumble
 
Gabriel2020 said:
HEBREWS; 5; 13-14; For every one that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness for he is a babe.(baby) 14; But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,even those by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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spiritual milk is the gospel, if the foundation is on rocky ground or sand, it will never be able to handle meat.
 
Why do you follow me in repeating something someone else says I said, who cannot find it to quote it because it does not exist.

I do not believe I have calle you a lian, but I may have said any who say "such and such" are lying........there is a big difference.

YOu now are doing what others do who try to torpedo the truth being shared by saying they said something out of the blue with no direct reference.

I advise you to watch the allegations and stick to the Word of God.......


gb9 said:
you have, for months, called me a lair and accused me of harassing you because you stated in a older thread that " real , true mature Christians do not need to read Paul, they can learn everything from Christ" then, you went on to say that " Paul's letters addressed Churches with problems, and if you do not have those problems, you have no need to read the letters" .

well, I'll be waiting for an apology from you for all the false allegations you have lobbed at me, because you just basically said the same thing again.
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JaumeJ said:
Why do you follow me in repeating something someone else says I said, who cannot find it to quote it because it does not exist.

I do not believe I have calle you a lian, but I may have said any who say "such and such" are lying........there is a big difference.

YOu now are doing what others do who try to torpedo the truth being shared by saying they said something out of the blue with no direct reference.

I advise you to watch the allegations and stick to the Word of God.......
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Remember JJ never does es wrong, and even if he is shown to have done it, he will blame shift, your wasting your time trying to ask JJ to say he is sorry, or what he thinks one must do to get to heaven, i keep hoping he proves me wrong, but i keep waiting.
 
JaumeJ said:
Why do you follow me in repeating something someone else says I said, who cannot find it to quote it because it does not exist.

I do not believe I have calle you a lian, but I may have said any who say "such and such" are lying........there is a big difference.

YOu now are doing what others do who try to torpedo the truth being shared by saying they said something out of the blue with no direct reference.

I advise you to watch the allegations and stick to the Word of God.......
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in the old thread " Paul exposes false applications of the law ", on nov. 10, last year, you YOU said " it does not matter what Paul has to say if our Lord , Jesus, taught us all we need to know on the subject ". direct quote. from you.

that sir, is not an allegation , it is a fact. anyone can go to that thread, stating with post # 32, in which you said the above, and go from there to see what else you said about Paul's teaching .
 
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You are absolutely correct! No, please diagram how that is wrong. There is nothing wrong with my saying that if it istrue, and, afdter much study, it is. Paul sure would not mind, so why is this some kind of damning issue for you?


gb9 said:
in the old thread " Paul exposes false applications of the law ", on nov. 10, last year, you YOU said " it does not matter what Paul has to say if our Lord , Jesus, taught us all we need to know on the subject ". direct quote. from you.

that sir, is not an allegation , it is a fact. anyone can go to that thread, stating with post # 32, in which you said the above, and go from there to see what else you said about Paul's teaching .
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