CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus
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Okay (and thank you for your response), so since CJL believes that the first "69 Weeks" were factored by "360 days"... without any need to change orbital-speed... I'm guessing he believes (like many of us do) that the STARTING POINT of the time-prophecy began some time around 445/444bc, doesn't he?
(I forget his view on that... though I have watched his past videos).
Perhaps he has suggested a different starting point for the first "69 Weeks"?? Do you happen to know or recall his view there?
And, given that most believe (as I do as well) that the STARTING point of the "69 Weeks" was in 445bc (or 444bc) and concluded on Palm Sunday (the year of His death; Lk19:41-44, etc), I am not sure how "701bc" can be considered to have that time-frame which would conclude [merely] "A FEW YEARS before Palm Sunday" (since "701bc" and "445bc" are MANY MANY YEARS apart [256 YEARS, not merely "a few"], see).
Thoughts?
(I forget his view on that... though I have watched his past videos).
Perhaps he has suggested a different starting point for the first "69 Weeks"?? Do you happen to know or recall his view there?
And, given that most believe (as I do as well) that the STARTING point of the "69 Weeks" was in 445bc (or 444bc) and concluded on Palm Sunday (the year of His death; Lk19:41-44, etc), I am not sure how "701bc" can be considered to have that time-frame which would conclude [merely] "A FEW YEARS before Palm Sunday" (since "701bc" and "445bc" are MANY MANY YEARS apart [256 YEARS, not merely "a few"], see).
Thoughts?
I see it basically like this, also:
ooooo [imagine these O's as being like cogs of wheels--fitting together]
--the first one being the "7 Weeks" (49 years) [starting in 445bc--Neh2];
--the second one being the "62 Weeks" (434 years) [concluding on Palm Sunday--Lk19:41-44, etc];
--the next two being the "TWO DAYS [/2000 years]" (intervening) [Hos5:14-6:3];
--the final one being the "1 Week" (7 years) [yet FUTURE]
[i.e. nothing "random"]
ooooo [imagine these O's as being like cogs of wheels--fitting together]
--the first one being the "7 Weeks" (49 years) [starting in 445bc--Neh2];
--the second one being the "62 Weeks" (434 years) [concluding on Palm Sunday--Lk19:41-44, etc];
--the next two being the "TWO DAYS [/2000 years]" (intervening) [Hos5:14-6:3];
--the final one being the "1 Week" (7 years) [yet FUTURE]
[i.e. nothing "random"]
Okay, I haven’t read the whole thread, but what is the DATE at least? We all want to know what you guys found out. Yes frankly amazing that y’all figured it out when no one has been able to for centuries. Wow I mean, our very own CC posters have come up with the actual date of Jesus’s return!
What is the DATE?
What is the DATE?
Why is that "mine"?
I assume you have and read your own copy of the Bible?
If you cannot answer the simple question, "What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension?"...
... then you can grump all you want (
) , but I don't make a practice of "sharing" with people who will not LOOK AT and USE SCRIPTURE ITSELF when explaining how they arrived at what they believe. (Hence my question to you. )
I assume you have and read your own copy of the Bible?
If you cannot answer the simple question, "What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension?"...
... then you can grump all you want (
) , but I don't make a practice of "sharing" with people who will not LOOK AT and USE SCRIPTURE ITSELF when explaining how they arrived at what they believe. (Hence my question to you. )
Why is that "mine"?
I assume you have and read your own copy of the Bible?
If you cannot answer the simple question, "What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension?"...
... then you can grump all you want ( ) , but I don't make a practice of "sharing" with people who will not LOOK AT and USE SCRIPTURE ITSELF when explaining how they arrived at what they believe. (Hence my question to you. )
I assume you have and read your own copy of the Bible?
If you cannot answer the simple question, "What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension?"...
... then you can grump all you want (
) , but I don't make a practice of "sharing" with people who will not LOOK AT and USE SCRIPTURE ITSELF when explaining how they arrived at what they believe. (Hence my question to you. )
To be clear, I don't believe the video-maker is correct (on his take of the "dates").
And I didn't start the thread. I merely contributed to the thread when I felt it appropriate to do so.
So I guess I will assume you believe that JESUS HIMSELF STILL DOES NOT "KNOW" even after His resurrection and ascension (unless you say otherwise).
But that you are unwilling to share what Scripture leads you to believe this.
And I didn't start the thread. I merely contributed to the thread when I felt it appropriate to do so.
So I guess I will assume you believe that JESUS HIMSELF STILL DOES NOT "KNOW" even after His resurrection and ascension (unless you say otherwise).
But that you are unwilling to share what Scripture leads you to believe this.
I’m not making any claims bro. Who cares about some stupid formula trying to “figure out” the date of Jesus’s return? Basically it’s @Radius who started it. Not sure why you’re buying into this garbage. We’ve got Matt 24 and other verses. Yeah we’ll know the season but everyone with half a freakin brain knows we won’t have a specific date. Wake up man! How gullible are you, to fall for some whacky goofball video?
The video claims by October 2024 fits the timeline he constructed from Adam that includes Daniel's 70th week and Jeremiah's mention of a 7 year double Jubilee if I remember correctly.
But the answer you most want to know is his determination of October 2024.
And oddly enough, He makes this conclusion after making a similar claim for 2023. So he's moved it to the following year.
I am just reporting and not invested into any of it other than I do enjoy when people make such timelines to see how they explain from the Bible to make their conclusion.
Another disclaimer here:
The fact he uses the KJV Bible for Old Testament dating and not a true Hebrew Source like the Torah and Mikra makes his conclusions more intriguing because he's not even using the same information that God gave directly to Moses.
But the answer you most want to know is his determination of October 2024.
And oddly enough, He makes this conclusion after making a similar claim for 2023. So he's moved it to the following year.
I am just reporting and not invested into any of it other than I do enjoy when people make such timelines to see how they explain from the Bible to make their conclusion.
Another disclaimer here:
The fact he uses the KJV Bible for Old Testament dating and not a true Hebrew Source like the Torah and Mikra makes his conclusions more intriguing because he's not even using the same information that God gave directly to Moses.
Just Fall of 2024 and then specifically October of 2024.
I will add my own spiel to the mix here..
I read where many Church Fathers, those who came directly after the Age of the Apostles in the Bible claiming to have listen and heard from the Apostles themselves. Wrote there was a belief that the Second Coming came around the 6,000 year mark from a specific date in the Garden/Creation period. And anyone can add that the Old Testament [A.D.] was roughly close to 4,000 years long + Jesus was 33 when He DBR/Ascended [30-33 A.D.] + whatever time from then until 6,000 years is what we are dealing with.
We also know a 7 year Tribulation takes place. But more than anything else is the Church Father's understanding of the Second Coming being at the 6,000 year mark and another 1,000 years for Jesus to reign as King.
Bottom line, and no one knows. And like John wrote in his Gospel if he listed everything Jesus did it would be in so many books that would fill all of the libraries of the known world back then. And I presume many things the Apostles discussed were not always written down and why we have Church Fathers making this claim of the 6,000 year mark.
What it does lead to is we know we are truly CLOSE to the End before the 1,000 year Reign begins with Jesus. 2024 would be wonderful in my opinion. But I don't know if God would give someone that much knowledge to be within months or days let alone the year. I just know it could happen tomorrow for all I know.
I will add my own spiel to the mix here..
I read where many Church Fathers, those who came directly after the Age of the Apostles in the Bible claiming to have listen and heard from the Apostles themselves. Wrote there was a belief that the Second Coming came around the 6,000 year mark from a specific date in the Garden/Creation period. And anyone can add that the Old Testament [A.D.] was roughly close to 4,000 years long + Jesus was 33 when He DBR/Ascended [30-33 A.D.] + whatever time from then until 6,000 years is what we are dealing with.
We also know a 7 year Tribulation takes place. But more than anything else is the Church Father's understanding of the Second Coming being at the 6,000 year mark and another 1,000 years for Jesus to reign as King.
Bottom line, and no one knows. And like John wrote in his Gospel if he listed everything Jesus did it would be in so many books that would fill all of the libraries of the known world back then. And I presume many things the Apostles discussed were not always written down and why we have Church Fathers making this claim of the 6,000 year mark.
What it does lead to is we know we are truly CLOSE to the End before the 1,000 year Reign begins with Jesus. 2024 would be wonderful in my opinion. But I don't know if God would give someone that much knowledge to be within months or days let alone the year. I just know it could happen tomorrow for all I know.
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