Climate change...what is it really?

[SanderB]

I hate pollutants in our environment more than most. Breathing the heavy metals that drop out of the trade winds from China and India industry and power plants is disgusting criminal activity on their part. Those powers that shouldn't be in this country are also to blame. At the very least they should put sanctions on all imports until they are inspected and censors installed for compliance. However, I do not believe that people are changing the climate by heating their homes and transportation. There are several reasons that the billionaires have bought this agenda to impose on the first world nations.

I don't like pollutants either. Even if they don't or do cause climate change, breathing in NOx and particulate emissions can be unhealthy. Reducing our dependency on fossil fuels could help the health of nations, whether it keeps the Earth cool or not. Also, China and Musk decide to pollute the air much more than average consumers. One billionaire can emit more CO2, NOx and particulates in a day than most humans in a lifetime. So, it is the billionaires problem. The same billionaires that say, "buy my electric car", are the ones that pollute the most.

 

[Lanolin]

do they still have acid rain in europe. or did that end with Chenobryl

I know Vietnam still has serious issues with Agent Orange contamination

Harbours silting up with sewage is also a big problem, along with floating plastics. Esp microplastics. You could go swimming, but you could also choke and drown in a plastic soup.

 

[RaceRunner]

Why do some RC priests than concern themselves with converting any aliens which may be encountered?

It is called the end time deception.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Climate change...what is it really?

It a REAL MONEY MAKER for people who sell products, and Phony solutions, for a supposed "human caused problem" with the world's climate. It's a "Cash Cow" for the Media fearmongers who sell the fantasy.

Not something I give any consideration to whatsoever, nor adjust MY life or my family's life in any way to deal with it.

 

[wattie]

What are the actual facts on what is happening to the climate?

I know the temperature has been going up and down for 6-10,000 years, but is what is happening recently more extreme, accelerated?

I don't know the actual facts, and so I don't like to jump on a band wagon until I know the truth.

There is a prevailing belief that mankind will destroy the world through their mis-use of it.. but this is not going to happen.. God is the one who is in control of this.

Anyone know where to find the actual facts?

 

[iamsoandso]

It is true that all wars start with economic issues, so in order to be patriotic, we must get off of Middle Eastern fuels, and switch to our own, nationally generated energy.

The US hasn't imported much oil from Saudi Arabia for years now. Most of the oil we have imported comes from Canada or Mexico. After Russia invaded Ukraine all of the gas prices shot up but it wasn't because we imported oil from Russia or Saudi Arabia the two only account for 9% added together. The reason why gas prices shot up over the last year was because of the mid term elections. One side wants green alternatives and so the oil companies raise the prices prior to the elections so people will vote against them and for those who support the big oil companies(notice it went up and up before the election 11 days ago and now after the election it's dropped below 3.00 a gallon?,lol) ... Anyway here's the actual numbers on oil imports(they know people will rarely look up what they say about it) nope we only get 6% of our oil from SA and 3% from Russia so isn't it just great how politicians and big oil companies can have you pay more for food,,blame it on oil prices annnnnnd get you to vote for them at the same time? https://www.afpm.org/sites/default/...S. Imports of Oil & Petroleum from Russia.pdf

 

[SanderB]

What are the actual facts on what is happening to the climate?

I know the temperature has been going up and down for 6-10,000 years, but is what is happening recently more extreme, accelerated?

I don't know the actual facts, and so I don't like to jump on a band wagon until I know the truth.

There is a prevailing belief that mankind will destroy the world through their mis-use of it.. but this is not going to happen.. God is the one who is in control of this.

Anyone know where to find the actual facts?

Earth has been warming and cooling since formation. In fact, the earth was 2-3°C (5°F) warmer than today three million years ago. 300 million years ago, the earth was much warmer than today. However, it isn't the temperature that is the problem, it is the rate of change. Earth's temperature has risen more so per decade than any other point in the past few million years. Previously, it would have taken 5000 years for the earth to warm as much as it had over the past century.

In other words, the rate of warming is 20x faster than the natural fluctuations. Cities (flooding, weather phenomena), humans, the ocean and plants/animals can't react quick enough to this abrupt change. If Earth warms up, it should take thousands of years per degree, not 50 years per degree.

 

[iamsoandso]

What are the actual facts on what is happening to the climate?

I know the temperature has been going up and down for 6-10,000 years, but is what is happening recently more extreme, accelerated?

I don't know the actual facts, and so I don't like to jump on a band wagon until I know the truth.

There is a prevailing belief that mankind will destroy the world through their mis-use of it.. but this is not going to happen.. God is the one who is in control of this.

Anyone know where to find the actual facts?

Yep in fact according to Revelation 11:18 the time will come when he will "destroy them which destroy the earth" https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-11-18/

 

[wattie]

Earth has been warming and cooling since formation. In fact, the earth was 2-3°C (5°F) warmer than today three million years ago. 300 million years ago, the earth was much warmer than today. However, it isn't the temperature that is the problem, it is the rate of change. Earth's temperature has risen more so per decade than any other point in the past few million years. Previously, it would have taken 5000 years for the earth to warm as much as it had over the past century.

In other words, the rate of warming is 20x faster than the natural fluctuations. Cities (flooding, weather phenomena), humans, the ocean and plants/animals can't react quick enough to this abrupt change. If Earth warms up, it should take thousands of years per degree, not 50 years per degree.

Well here you are assuming millions of years are true. I don't agree with millions of years as a fact. But if the facts are that what is happening in the past few decades is accelerated much more than previously then that is interesting.

And yea, people can't do much. It's Gods domain.

 

[SanderB]

Well here you are assuming millions of years are true. I don't agree with millions of years as a fact. But if the facts are that what is happening in the past few decades is accelerated much more than previously then that is interesting.

And yea, people can't do much. It's Gods domain.

Yeah, even in the last 5,000-10,000 years, this is the fastest rate of temperature change ever. Same thing is true if we emitted a hypothetical substance into the air that cooled the planet by 1 degree every 50 years, that would throw the weather off balance (this is why I don't like when scientists talk of launching sun reflector mirrors into space to reduce global warming, as that would have unforseen consequences on some lifeforms that are already adapting to the warming planet, such as crops) The hunk of rock we are on will be okay, but the inhabitants wouldn't be as okay. That is why we must adapt to this warmer world, or try and slow the warming down back to a degree every few thousand years.

Also, it would be cool if a thread was started for old vs. young Earth creationism. I am in the first category, cos each of the 6 days represent some form of era or eon IMO. Only God knows the true answer though, but the data is convincing that each day of creation varies in length by millions, if not billions of years.

 

[persistent]

do they still have acid rain in europe. or did that end with Chenobryl

https://earthjustice.org/features/photos-life-under-the-stacks

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

It a REAL MONEY MAKER for people who sell products, and Phony solutions, for a supposed "human caused problem" with the world's climate. It's a "Cash Cow" for the Media fearmongers who sell the fantasy.

Not something I give any consideration to whatsoever, nor adjust MY life or my family's life in any way to deal with it.

Algore, not to be confused with Igore, popularized "global warming" propaganda to multiply his billions while carrying out the globalists demonic agenda . That's when carbon credits were sold like stock on wall street. 70s was the so called global cooling/ new ice age propaganda. The 80's-2,000s we're the global warming propaganda. That was working, but lots of people were onto the scam, so they changed the lie to calling it "climate change.". Who can argue that since climate always changes.

 

[persistent]

I know Vietnam still has serious issues with Agent Orange contamination

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yep in fact according to Revelation 11:18 the time will come when he will "destroy them which destroy the earth" https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-11-18/

I'm guessing that it will be through a world war with major fallout, but that's my speculation. However, the major corporations do much damage of environment through gmos, land, sea, air, food, and medical pollutants. That's only exceeded by the GTS of the world.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I don't like pollutants either. Even if they don't or do cause climate change, breathing in NOx and particulate emissions can be unhealthy. Reducing our dependency on fossil fuels could help the health of nations, whether it keeps the Earth cool or not. Also, China and Musk decide to pollute the air much more than average consumers. One billionaire can emit more CO2, NOx and particulates in a day than most humans in a lifetime. So, it is the billionaires problem. The same billionaires that say, "buy my electric car", are the ones that pollute the most.

Have you ever heard of Chem Trails?
They are many different experiments, and geo-engineering the gts/ corps use to reflect the sun's rays to elicit numerous reactions. When it is used, in regions, sun's rays are reflected away from the earth and the particles fall onto water crops and become air pollution. We see it all over north America. Do you see that in your country?

Geo-Engineering

 

[pottersclay]

Just a little more info...things they dont air on regular channels

 

[RaceRunner]

What are the actual facts on what is happening to the climate?

I know the temperature has been going up and down for 6-10,000 years, but is what is happening recently more extreme, accelerated?

I don't know the actual facts, and so I don't like to jump on a band wagon until I know the truth.

There is a prevailing belief that mankind will destroy the world through their mis-use of it.. but this is not going to happen.. God is the one who is in control of this.

Anyone know where to find the actual facts?

I already posted the video on the first page.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Who is to say that there are not resources yet undiscovered and technologies yet unrevealed?
Todays climate alarmist are trying to solve a problem that humanity cannot solve apart from God.

I think that there are plenty of sources of energy in the inhabitable regions of the world. Big corporations bury them or their inventors. They pay it's to cooperate. Ie. War against coal. Clean coal sent overseas. Power plants now have scrubber technology to reduce pollution dramatically, but we're blocked from production during the Obamination administration and now under biten. Chinese filthy plants open every week and do not abide by any treaties. USA leaders work against all of the people except for the billionaires who pull their strings

 

[pottersclay]

Lets keep in mind what the prophets said concerning the earth changing, springs and flowers in the desert, mountainsides becoming green.
Satan has nothing to do with it...he dosent fulfill prophecy God does.
Those who think they're in control will have you believe its a disaster....its a wake up call.

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm guessing that it will be through a world war with major fallout, but that's my speculation. However, the major corporations do much damage of environment through gmos, land, sea, air, food, and medical pollutants. That's only exceeded by the GTS of the world.

How I don't know but I try to do as much as I can to tend the earth other than destroy it. A lot this I think is "out of sight,out of mind" though in that I have an electric trimmer but when I plug it in to recharge it the wire goes through the wall and out to the light pole then across town to the power company and their burning what to generate the electricity? Well so I cant see it smoking like a two cycle trimmer but it's still smoking right? So how green is an electric car,,doesn't the wall plug run to the same power plant? And if I followed the weed trimmer's trail back to Walmart,,and then the ship that brought it from China and then added the pollution at the plant in China that made it with no environmental regulations just exactly green is my little electric weed trimmer? It's out of sight so since I cant see it smoking or polluting the air I think it's green....