Coming out of Denominational Churches

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Burn1986

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Matt 10:24 says “ 24 A student is not greater than his teacher. A servant is not above his master.”

If you want more from God then you will pro need to come out of the denominational church you’re in. You’re only gonna learn as much as you’re being taught.

In fact if you only want to debate salvation, or you don’t want more from God then stay put.
 
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Catholic Church Syndrome Explained:

- I had a bad experience with the Catholic Church.
- I now hate the Catholic Church.
- I am now going to read the Bible alone and make my own church. I will be judge, jury and executioner.

Coincidentally a lot of atheists have become atheists because they’ve had a bad experience with the Catholic Church .
I hope that the leaders of the Catholic Church will have a lot to answer before God on judgment day for pushing people away.
 
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Eli1 said:
Catholic Church Syndrome Explained:

- I had a bad experience with the Catholic Church.
- I now hate the Catholic Church.
- I am now going to read the Bible alone and make my own church. I will be judge, jury and executioner.

Coincidentally a lot of atheists have become atheists because they’ve had a bad experience with the Catholic Church .
I hope that the leaders of the Catholic Church will have a lot to answer before God on judgment day for pushing people away.
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I grew up in a Baptist church and when I got really fired up for God, they didn’t know what to do with me. I then went through a crisis (a girl and a breakup) and through some events ended up in a full gospel church and later on at a morning men’s meeting got baptized in the Holy Spirit (was so fired up, I pretty much paced around and spoke/ prayed in tongues most of the day at work. My walk was way different after this. Point being, I was only gonna go so far in a Baptist/ denominational church. I don’t have any hard feelings toward my old church, they only did what they knew to do.

Point is, I
 
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Eli1 said:
Catholic Church Syndrome Explained:

- I had a bad experience with the Catholic Church.
- I now hate the Catholic Church.
- I am now going to read the Bible alone and make my own church. I will be judge, jury and executioner.

Coincidentally a lot of atheists have become atheists because they’ve had a bad experience with the Catholic Church .
I hope that the leaders of the Catholic Church will have a lot to answer before God on judgment day for pushing people away.
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You post brings to my mind such writings as "the spirit of apostasy is already among us," before Jesus Yeshua returns apostasy will abound, and more.

The Father is to call His children out of the Great Whore, the Mother of whores. It stansds to reason that He will call His children from those daughters also.

When I contemplate any and all denominations contrived by men, I believe I have already been "called out." This by no means is saying there are not yet many who believe within the ranks of those apostate's, however they too will be called out to hear Jesus Yeshua only on Truth, the Way and the Life.; I believe, so leave me to my contentment, and should any of this be folly, I will stand for it.
 
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JaumeJ said:
You post brings to my mind such writings as "the spirit of apostasy is already among us," before Jesus Yeshua returns apostasy will abound, and more.

The Father is to call His children out of the Great Whore, the Mother of whores. It stansds to reason that He will call His children from those daughters also.

When I contemplate any and all denominations contrived by men, I believe I have already been "called out." This by no means is saying there are not yet many who believe within the ranks of those apostate's, however they too will be called out to hear Jesus Yeshua only on Truth, the Way and the Life.; I believe, so leave me to my contentment, and should any of this be folly, I will stand for it.
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Denominational churches have their place, but there is simply more to the Christian walk. Way more. Salvation is only the beginning. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is next, and there is way more after that.
 
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At a Duncan Campbell revival an old Scotsman prayed about the young people in 5he meeting.
" LORD, You must be disappointed to see So much of the steam going to the whistle, when it should be going to the pistons! "

Quaint language, but very practical.
It is the established churches that have the organisation, places opertunities for service, support and training.
That your churches didn't know what to do with you shows either they had no imagination or that you where unteachable?
 
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TolworthJohn said:
At a Duncan Campbell revival an old Scotsman prayed about the young people in 5he meeting.
" LORD, You must be disappointed to see So much of the steam going to the whistle, when it should be going to the pistons! "

Quaint language, but very practical.
It is the established churches that have the organisation, places opertunities for service, support and training.
That your churches didn't know what to do with you shows either they had no imagination or that you where unteachable?
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No, not exactly. You’re right, denominational churches are good places for entry level ministry. I probably was unteachable when we were the only ones going out sharing Jesus. Again, I appreciate denominational churches. But most are very “limiting” on advancing in the Christian walk. Most denominational churches resist the Holy Spirit and have nothing to do with it. They still function and do a good work though.
 
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I mostly disagree with your "theory".... your church "didn't know what to do with you"..... what did you expect them to "do"?
Each of us is responsible for our walk with God... if I'm at a point of wanting to "do" something, I should just do it.
There are too many scriptures that point us to the necessity of being part of a "church" or ecclesia... we are all members of a body and have our own "task" to fulfil...

What exactly is it about you and your "Spirit filling" that upset them? Were you wanting to openly speak in tongues during the assembly? Without an interpreter? That is against scripture. Were you wanting to participate in "holy laughter" and dance around like you are on LSD?

Speaking in tongues is not the be-all/end-all of being filled with the Spirit... it sounds like you believe that's the most important thing, which is unscriptural, as well....
 
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I mostly disagree with your "theory".... your church "didn't know what to do with you"..... what did you expect them to "do"?
Each of us is responsible for our walk with God... if I'm at a point of wanting to "do" something, I should just do it.
There are too many scriptures that point us to the necessity of being part of a "church" or ecclesia... we are all members of a body and have our own "task" to fulfil...

What exactly is it about you and your "Spirit filling" that upset them? Were you wanting to openly speak in tongues during the assembly? Without an interpreter? That is against scripture. Were you wanting to participate in "holy laughter" and dance around like you are on LSD?

Speaking in tongues is not the be-all/end-all of being filled with the Spirit... it sounds like you believe that's the most important thing, which is unscriptural, as well....
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Well, I hadn’t yet been baptized in the Holy Spirit, but I had a big spiritual experience at college. When I came back to my original church they just weren’t as fired up and wanting to go out and visit and witness. It was somewhat of a letdown. Of course I was in my 20s, so I had a lot of zeal without knowledge. It was later on that I got filled with the Holy Spirit.
 
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Eli1 said:
Catholic Church Syndrome Explained:

- I had a bad experience with the Catholic Church.
- I now hate the Catholic Church.
- I am now going to read the Bible alone and make my own church. I will be judge, jury and executioner.

Coincidentally a lot of atheists have become atheists because they’ve had a bad experience with the Catholic Church .
I hope that the leaders of the Catholic Church will have a lot to answer before God on judgment day for pushing people away.
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I have had several bad experiences in the Denominational Church, but I don't hate them. The leaders of these churches absolutely refuse to hear or to acknowledge their own sin so repentance is impossible. They preach to you but not to themselves. It's all about power and money (Babylon). They have a lot to answer for.
 
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Burn1986 said:
If you want more from God then you will pro need to come out of the denominational church you’re in.
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Denominational Churches Are Bad:

This is like saying, "Pants can cut off your circulation, so stop wearing pants."

Well... maybe you just need a different pair of pants.

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Which denominational church are you talking about?
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Several. I was raised in a "main stream" protestant church and rejoined another when my children were small. I even served as a Deacon before they became liberal. I then tried attending evangelical churches (2) that were affiliated with protestant organizations.

I know I will face the accusation of being a "church shopper" (An old tried and true standard) but that just is not true. I attended a UM Church for seven years before a career move ended my attendance. I led adult classes there. I attended my last church for 15 years before leaving. I also led adult discussion classes there before I was accused of heresy for quoting C. S. Lewis. I also regularly attend Catholic Mass with my wife, I am comfortable there but find no fellowship.

What I desire most is Christian fellowship, I think that was a major part of the original church. I don't need someone telling me "the truth" but seek other believers trying to live their lives as God desires. The western Christian church doesn't do that well.

Sorry if this is a rant!
 
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I know I will face the accusation of being a "church shopper"
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The term "church shopper" comes from folks who want to be in a church for a lifetime and that's fine.
But i go to different churches for edification. In every group (including my church) you will have the stiff and the edifying members.
So i frequently go to different churches, Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox.
I can tell right away if the priests are legalists or if they are spiritually edifying people.
I have seen a lot of crazy stuff, but i have also seen a lot of beautiful things and people who i keep in touch with.
So, yes, church shopping for me is growth.
 
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Every situation is different and it’s hard to find a good church home. So, if you’re happy in your church, then don’t move on. I’m sure if some of you have even half the spiritual maturity you claim, the you can use some discretion on what God is telling you. So, you can move on to another thread of this doesn’t apply to you.

I know how it goes. This will get argued for the next 20+ pages, so flame on…
 
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I also led adult discussion classes there before I was accused of heresy for quoting C. S. Lewis.
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the horror! :rolleyes:
There are churches out there.... but there are no "perfect" churches. If the church you are in is wrong for you, then you should "shop" until you find a good fit. Sometimes it takes a few months to realize that it IS a good fit.... it's almost impossible, at least for me, to "decide" on a church with only one or two attendances...
 
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Eli1 said:
The term "church shopper" comes from folks who want to be in a church for a lifetime and that's fine.
But i go to different churches for edification.
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There is obviously nothing wrong with visiting different churches...
as long as we remember the Biblical model is to become part of a community, a family in which we grow and serve.

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maxwel said:
There is obviously nothing wrong with visiting different churches...
as long as we remember the Biblical model is to become part of a community, a family in which we grow and serve.

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I agree with this however I’d also like to make you aware that being a monk is seen as the highest form of worship in my church, but that didn't work out for me when I was young.

Glory to God for all things He puts in our way.
 
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