Creation week

[Flannery]

I'm studying the first chapter of Genesis. I have this huge problem with modernist math and physics, it goes back to my freshman year in math. Genral and special relativity are about the nature of time and how it's passage effects space and matter. It's about the economy. God saw that everything was good when He made it, but then it fell. The matter of time passing in 1930s Sci Fi (I know, it's not truly serious enough for a Bible Group, it's only the methods the Nazis used to cover up the holocaust and hide the stolen loot) is the fundamental basis of fractal arithmetic and quantum number theory. The code and hiding times (this is mentioned in Revelation, where a great beast thinks to change times and laws) is all about the names of the days of the week. Not only the religious matter of which one is the Sabbath, but the whole program of renaming days, creating and discarding and renaming religious observances, and even changing the number of days in a month or week. Napoleon tried to change the week to being ten days long. He observed a seasonal festival called Thermador, which falls at the same time as Ramdan, which falls at the same time as Lent.

Does anyone know anything about that changing times and laws prophecy at the end of the Bible? I've heard some really serious arguments over even lap year and daylight savings time. the fact that a seven-day week is not seen in astronomy is the fundamental axiom od all shoddy atheist argument that the Bible is a no-good science book. Any thoughts?

 

[TMS]

I'm studying the first chapter of Genesis. I have this huge problem with modernist math and physics, it goes back to my freshman year in math. Genral and special relativity are about the nature of time and how it's passage effects space and matter. It's about the economy. God saw that everything was good when He made it, but then it fell. The matter of time passing in 1930s Sci Fi (I know, it's not truly serious enough for a Bible Group, it's only the methods the Nazis used to cover up the holocaust and hide the stolen loot) is the fundamental basis of fractal arithmetic and quantum number theory. The code and hiding times (this is mentioned in Revelation, where a great beast thinks to change times and laws) is all about the names of the days of the week. Not only the religious matter of which one is the Sabbath, but the whole program of renaming days, creating and discarding and renaming religious observances, and even changing the number of days in a month or week. Napoleon tried to change the week to being ten days long. He observed a seasonal festival called Thermador, which falls at the same time as Ramdan, which falls at the same time as Lent.

Does anyone know anything about that changing times and laws prophecy at the end of the Bible? I've heard some really serious arguments over even lap year and daylight savings time. the fact that a seven-day week is not seen in astronomy is the fundamental axiom od all shoddy atheist argument that the Bible is a no-good science book. Any thoughts?

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The little horn that is different the the ten comes up and uproots 3 of the ten.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Times = 2 years
Time = 1 year
Dividing of time = half a year

= 3 and a half years..

= 3 x 360 days + 180 days
= 1260 days...
A day = a year in prophesy

The little horn rules for 1260 years.

 

[TMS]

One power fits all the identifying marks of Daniel and Rev.

 

[Flannery]

Yes, I know that prophecy too, or at any rate I also have scholarly commentaries on it. What I'm on as a preface right now is Genisis 1-11. God gave names to some things during the initial week of creation. Notably he named the night, the day, and the Sabbath. It's about time. After Chapter 11 however, the languages change. Now there is more than one language. Economically speaking, naming the Calander days and ordaining any civic memorials is a state duty.

Now I am not yet talking about the weekend. Who named Saturday and Sunday what either one of them were named anyway? and there are five other days of the week.

I haven't gotten to the ordained day of rest, or the mark of the beast needed for traders at the end of time or anything like that yet at all. I'm looking at overall economics, economics refers to the nomenclature of things that exist of nature, it's not the same as the law ordaining the Sabbath but does include the American National Institute of Standards and Measure names for things that a state would give civil precedence to, like units of any kind of physical measure, street signs or banker's hours.

One important modern issue in economics is the fact that Genesis one shows God naming Adam and Eve, the people he created, and the times of day, and the elevations of water masses in the atmosphere. It's about what has a name given by God, and what below it has a name, but given by secular rulers. They both matter, but one is a priori to the other.

 

[JaumeJ]

I'm studying the first chapter of Genesis. I have this huge problem with modernist math and physics, it goes back to my freshman year in math. Genral and special relativity are about the nature of time and how it's passage effects space and matter. It's about the economy. God saw that everything was good when He made it, but then it fell. The matter of time passing in 1930s Sci Fi (I know, it's not truly serious enough for a Bible Group, it's only the methods the Nazis used to cover up the holocaust and hide the stolen loot) is the fundamental basis of fractal arithmetic and quantum number theory. The code and hiding times (this is mentioned in Revelation, where a great beast thinks to change times and laws) is all about the names of the days of the week. Not only the religious matter of which one is the Sabbath, but the whole program of renaming days, creating and discarding and renaming religious observances, and even changing the number of days in a month or week. Napoleon tried to change the week to being ten days long. He observed a seasonal festival called Thermador, which falls at the same time as Ramdan, which falls at the same time as Lent.

Does anyone know anything about that changing times and laws prophecy at the end of the Bible? I've heard some really serious arguments over even lap year and daylight savings time. the fact that a seven-day week is not seen in astronomy is the fundamental axiom od all shoddy atheist argument that the Bible is a no-good science book. Any thoughts?

My wording will not approach being as articulate as yours, though I do understand what you have purported here.

Understanding given me in the simpler manner is that the Hebrews followed the lunar calendar, their lunar calendar which was not as specific as what you have mentioned as per the astral days not coinciding with the solar calendar replacing it.

The Father did not intend mankind to ever actually know the true moments of beginning or ending of the creation, ergo some of the statistics of genealogy were ommitted on prpose. This also prevented the change to solar calendar making any difference in the aility to determine the end and the beginining of what is called time.

The names of monthss and days have been completely paganized giving no understand whatsoever relating to the Hebrew calendar, a very deviously clever ploy of the enemy. I could rant on, however you should be able to take it fro here. Pardon any typos...God bless your understanding and dmine, amen.

 

[JonathanBentley]

I think that the beast changes holidays of course Christmas and sets up new ones. If he decides on a ten day week, no surprise.

 

[Flannery]

My wording will not approach being as articulate as yours, though I do understand what you have purported here.

Understanding given me in the simpler manner is that the Hebrews followed the lunar calendar, their lunar calendar which was not as specific as what you have mentioned as per the astral days not coinciding with the solar calendar replacing it.

The Father did not intend mankind to ever actually know the true moments of beginning or ending of the creation, ergo some of the statistics of genealogy were ommitted on prpose. This also prevented the change to solar calendar making any difference in the aility to determine the end and the beginining of what is called time.

The names of monthss and days have been completely paganized giving no understand whatsoever relating to the Hebrew calendar, a very deviously clever ploy of the enemy. I could rant on, however you should be able to take it fro here. Pardon any typos...God bless your understanding and dmine, amen.

Are you sure they paganized it? I mean in the English-speaking calendar. What the I's to dot and T's to cross in it are in my mind are down to the fact that England was just already pagan and never used either Hebrew or Latin as a language to any serious degree, any national diplomacy aside. So, no one European ever changed away from using Hebrew to something new. Also, in puritan thought, there wasn't an intermediate stage where anyone who wasn't Roman was really Roman, it's more an educational influence. So, Europe changed straight from pagan to Christian, that's my point. So, there's never been an intermediate transition phase of Judaism in northern Europe between paganism and Christianity.

 

[JaumeJ]

Sorry, my referencing is the change to the solar calendar only, not to England or any other country.

 

[Flannery]

Sorry, my referencing is the change to the solar calendar only, not to England or any other country.

Where do you keep track of the solar Calander from, because the National Institute for Standards and Technology has astronomy tolls, notably at mount Palamar. If you don't have a country and you're only relying on astronomy, then you have no evidence or proof whatsoever that the seven-day week means anything at all.

What units of measurement do you use? Standard miles, yards, feet and inches come into the American language from English, in spite of the fact that the first people to determine the ratios and measure them off were Thales of Milites and others in his company including Pythagoras and Euclid.

If you're using modern metric units, then your nationality in terms of scientific language and scientific thought is focused twords Paris.

 

[oyster67]

...the methods the Nazis used to cover up the holocaust and hide the stolen loot) is the fundamental basis of fractal arithmetic and quantum number theory. The code and hiding times (this is mentioned in Revelation, where a great beast thinks to change times and laws) is all about the names of the days of the week...
...the fact that a seven-day week is not seen in astronomy is the fundamental axiom od all shoddy atheist argument that the Bible is a no-good science book. Any thoughts?

Yah ...
Changing Monday to Friday fixes everything.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

The three little horns are the Roman emperors that had very short reigns between Nero and Vaspasian, whos son was Titus who over saw the siege of and destriction of Jerusalem in 70 ad.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Sorry, Vespasian. I had his name wrong.
Any way He ruled for 10 years, and put down all the rebellions and brought a temporary peace and prosperity and strength to the empire,

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I dont think scripture is a secret code book. That kind of thinking is gnosticism. The scriptures are the narrative witness of Jesus the Son of God given to us so that we may believe.
You dont find Jesus or his disciples disputing calenders and names of days. In fact Jesus proclaimed Himself Lord of the sabbath and said that the sabbath was given to man for our sake. Jesus is our Sabbath, and Paul wrote that regarding days or not regarding days along with eating meat and not eating meat is up to the conscience of the individual; while also calling it weak in faith.

 

[Webers.Home]

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● Gen 1:5 . . And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Chronologically, evening and morning depicts overnight. In order for the first
day to be a time of light instead of darkness, it would have to start with
morning and end with evening because Gen 1:5 defines Day as a time of
light rather than darkness.

So I suggest that creation days were neither solar days nor 24-hour calendar
days; rather, the term "evening and morning" is just an index card
indicating the completion in turn of each of the six phases of creation.

NOTE: The Hebrew word for "day" is a mite ambiguous. For example: yowm
depicts of the entire creation endeavor in Gen 2:4
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[Pilgrimshope]

I dont think scripture is a secret code book. That kind of thinking is gnosticism. The scriptures are the narrative witness of Jesus the Son of God given to us so that we may believe.
You dont find Jesus or his disciples disputing calenders and names of days. In fact Jesus proclaimed Himself Lord of the sabbath and said that the sabbath was given to man for our sake. Jesus is our Sabbath, and Paul wrote that regarding days or not regarding days along with eating meat and not eating meat is up to the conscience of the individual; while also calling it weak in faith.

amen Roman’s 14 is one of the hardest things to get across to some folks that individual aspect of faith where one guy can think “ eating meat is sin and I thank God for the veggies “

and another guy can think “ everything is good to eat meet and vegetables and I thank the lord for it “

and neither guy is wrong , but each guy needs to honor thier own faith and conviction regarding things like a holy day , a sabbath , clean and unclean food elements of the law all of those things are now based on what I personally know and believe about those trivial matters like food or what day of the week it happens to be should I act better on Sunday than Tuesday ? Or honor him more on a sabbath than every day I love and breathe ?

In christ we can’t judge one another on things like that and can’t force our judgements and convictions about those trivial matters on others as requirements either but as Paul says we need to keep those things and our beliefs between we and God and not pass judgement on others who don’t agree on those trivial matters

meat or only veggies ? One day a week holy ? Or a daily walk whereby we find rest along the way ?

 

[Moses_Young]

One important modern issue in economics is the fact that Genesis one shows God naming Adam and Eve, the people he created, and the times of day, and the elevations of water masses in the atmosphere. It's about what has a name given by God, and what below it has a name, but given by secular rulers. They both matter, but one is a priori to the other.

Adam named Eve.

 

[Aaron56]

Adam named Eve.

Twice.

He originally named her “woman”. He named her “Eve” after the fall.

 

[Cameron143]

Twice.

He originally named her “woman”. He named her “Eve” after the fall.

Hmmm...so to call a female woman is to address her in her highest estate?

 

[Webers.Home]

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He originally named her “woman”.

The Hebrew word translated woman isn't really a name. It speaks of the
flip side of the same coin.

The female version of Adam wasn't the result of a separate act of God, i.e.
she wasn't created directly from the Earth's soil, rather, she was constructed
with material taken from Adam's body; thus the woman was a biological
reproduction of Adam, only as a different gender.

* Seeing as how the woman biologically descended from Adam, then any
child produced by the woman-- whether normally conceived or virgin
conceived --would be biologically descended from Adam the same as she
was.
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