No, but I saw a lot of occult creatures in it like Pan, but he was friendly in the episode.
Cs lewis Christian or Occult?
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No, but I saw a lot of occult creatures in it like Pan, but he was friendly in the episode.
Of course your choices are between you and God but this is a public forum and you opened the discussion.
No one is making you read certain books if you don't want to. I don't like horror movies personally so I don't watch them.
It's ok. We're all confused about a whole host of issues. Sorry if I came off harsh.
I would suggest praying about it. The Holy Spirit will guide you. Be blessed.
I can agree with that. But letting them contemplate that evil can be overcome with "good magic" isn't something i would want to solidify in their adolescent minds.I would doubt the wisdom of teaching children that there is no evil in the world, nothing bad to overcome. They might go into shock when they delve into Bible studies later
Yes, life is too complex and not so black and white. 8 of 10 children can understand it in one way, 2 of 10 will get into some evil experiments or ideas because of it.
In the end, its in the hand of God.
I would just not beat the idea "you cannot watch Harry Potter or you will become a witch" into a child. On the other hand, if that child seems to get too much excited about it for a long time, its probably a thing to take care of.
No extreme is good.
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Wow! You're judging Lewis's worth as a Christian on what Disney studios did with his fictitious series? How are you planning on gaining that maturity, if you won't even work this one out on your own? And how do you even get if the people answering your question are mature, if you don't work towards maturity yourself?
To me, this is kind of like a third grader walking into a trig class and complaining about the subject matter. A third grader can go into a trig class and complain, but first the third grader needs to learn what trig is and gain enough understanding to get that far. And, why would that third grader think the students or the teacher should stop to teach everything about it, so the third grader does get it?
Basically, feel free to study what you think you need to learn to answer your own question, because this one is so off the books, there just isn't enough time in the day to teach it to you, and you're already proving you want it to be your answer much more than the real answer.
Meanwhile, stop judging people based on what some movie studio did with the person's fiction long after the person was dead!
Harry Potter all over again! [url]http://mentalfloss.com/article/30339/6-times-onion-had-people-completely-fooled[/URL]
@Lynn.
English is not my first language, Dutch is. So its difficult for me to find the right words to expres what I mean.
I was really looking for answers. I do not understand why you react this way. Theres no need to be condescending to me. After Reading you message. I feel you are.
I was asking for mature Christian view on this. Is this wrong to ask? And never in this topic have I judged someone.
Have a nice day Lynn, God bless
English is not my first language, Dutch is. So its difficult for me to find the right words to expres what I mean.
I was really looking for answers. I do not understand why you react this way. Theres no need to be condescending to me. After Reading you message. I feel you are.
I was asking for mature Christian view on this. Is this wrong to ask? And never in this topic have I judged someone.
Have a nice day Lynn, God bless
Trouble in Narnia: The Occult Side of C.S. Lewis - Berean Publishers | Berean Publishers
In his autobiography (Surprised by Joy), Lewis tells how at age 13 he abandoned his Anglican faith due to the influence of a school mistress who was involved with Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Spiritualism; the whole Anglo-American Occultist tradition. And Lewis developed a lust for the occult that remained with him even after he returned to Anglicanism. He said,
And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since–the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean. I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts. (Surprised by Joy, New York: Harcourt Brace, 1955, pages 58-60.)
In his autobiography (Surprised by Joy), Lewis tells how at age 13 he abandoned his Anglican faith due to the influence of a school mistress who was involved with Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Spiritualism; the whole Anglo-American Occultist tradition. And Lewis developed a lust for the occult that remained with him even after he returned to Anglicanism. He said,
And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since–the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean. I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts. (Surprised by Joy, New York: Harcourt Brace, 1955, pages 58-60.)
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If you go looking for information on the internet to tear people down and ruin their good name you WILL find it.
Why did you deny it when I said you had made your mind up already? Your obvious purpose is to put people off CS Lewis.
If you wanted the opinions of "mature Christians" why are you not listening?
I suggested earlier.........that you look up Surprised By Joy. It's Positive, not negative.
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Have you seen the first movie? Not sure watching the second gives you the whole story. Kind of hard to explain what an author is doing when you come in the middle,
That's only halfway true. It does include a lot of real info but nobody who hasnt been into it would catch it. The books are worse
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I have not made my mind up, you did. Of course I looked things up on the internet. Its his own autobiography with his own words. In his own books. So why cant I test what he says against what the bible says?
Its not about him. Its about the bible. If its according to the bible its good. If it contradicts the bible its bad. As simple as that.
If you read the link and have some good biblically arguments that what is written is not true or correct. That would change my mind.
I have not made my mind up, you did. Of course I looked things up on the internet. Its his own autobiography with his own words. In his own books. So why cant I test what he says against what the bible says?
Its not about him. Its about the bible. If its according to the bible its good. If it contradicts the bible its bad. As simple as that.
If you read the link and have some good biblically arguments that what is written is not true or correct. That would change my mind.
Thing is reading some things can open doors through nosyness plus more than enough occult happens through thoughts. So depending on the person reading (depending on how easily theyre influenced and open) it can end up with someone unknowingly getting involved
I never watched narnia as it was never interesting for me lol. I still like watching harry potter but it surely did NOT influence my path lol
It had no part of me getting into it (as most know) but of course if u already are interested in witchcraft then it could lead u more into it.
But if u have no idea its just like any other movie
It had no part of me getting into it (as most know) but of course if u already are interested in witchcraft then it could lead u more into it.
But if u have no idea its just like any other movie
But you are only focusing on the part of his life before he was saved and ignoring that he was Christian and dedicated his academic career to Christian apologetics.
How do people become saved? They start unsaved. That is the point of autobiography, it tells a life story. His testimony is worth reading. What did you do before you knew Jesus? Where you perfect?
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The historical meaning of the word "occult' means something that is hidden from view.
The danger with authors like George MacDonald, Charles Williams, A. E. Waite, Tolkien, J. K. Rowling etc.., etc., and to some extent C. S. Lewis is in what they reveal.
The other question is do they know what they are revealing and is it purposeful or are they merely creating works of fiction based on a genre that interests them.
This is much harder to know unless one knows the author personally, however I would say Harry Potter series is more on the revealing side and therefore more dangerous to young minds
The danger with authors like George MacDonald, Charles Williams, A. E. Waite, Tolkien, J. K. Rowling etc.., etc., and to some extent C. S. Lewis is in what they reveal.
The other question is do they know what they are revealing and is it purposeful or are they merely creating works of fiction based on a genre that interests them.
This is much harder to know unless one knows the author personally, however I would say Harry Potter series is more on the revealing side and therefore more dangerous to young minds
They really cut out a lot of the book on that one.
I don't want to encourage you to do something that will bother your conscience. But if you are interested in these stories I do encourage you to read the books rather than see the movies; I think you'll get more out of the overall story that way and be less inclined to suspect nefarious intent.
Overall, I believe Lewis was trying to give a picture of Christ sacrificing Himself for our sins ((as Aslan, the lion)), and that necessarily involves including our sin in the narrative - much like the historical narrative of the Bible does the same thing. This comes across when you read the whole series, strongly, but maybe not if your only experience is one movie. I was already familiar with all the books before any movies were made so I wasn't exactly looking at it with 'fresh eyes' like you are.
