Cs lewis Christian or Occult?

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Angelique said:
Trouble in Narnia: The Occult Side of C.S. Lewis - Berean Publishers | Berean Publishers

In his autobiography (“Surprised by Joy”), Lewis tells how at age 13 he abandoned his Anglican faith due to the influence of a school mistress who was involved with “Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Spiritualism; the whole Anglo-American Occultist tradition.” And Lewis developed a “lust” for the occult that remained with him even after he returned to Anglicanism. He said,
“And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since–the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean. I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts.” (“Surprised by Joy,” New York: Harcourt Brace, 1955, pages 58-60.)
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".. once tried to describe it in a novel.. "

Wonder if he means Eustace putting on the cursed golden armband and turning into a dragon?

Hmm...
 
posthuman said:
I'm personally acquainted with a number of friendly pagan people :)
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usually u can talk to them better than many christians LOL
i know pagans, two being high priests and its easier for me to talk to them about Christ than others LOL
 
Demi777 said:
usually u can talk to them better than many christians LOL
i know pagans, two being high priests and its easier for me to talk to them about Christ than others LOL
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They're at least aware of and somewhat focused on spiritual things. Most people, they are 100% minds on flesh all day, if they even believe there's more to life than physical material and chemical processes.
 
posthuman said:
They're at least aware of and somewhat focused on spiritual things. Most people, they are 100% minds on flesh all day, if they even believe there's more to life than physical material and chemical processes.
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aaaand they actually keep their laws/commandments :p lol
 
graceNpeace said:
And perhaps they weren't...
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There is no "perhaps" about it. His false beliefs are fully documented. Do a search if you want the truth. Do you believe in Purgatory? Well Lewis sure did.

In Letters to Malcolm C.S. Lewis makes mention of this instinct to pray for the dead:
“Of course I pray for the dead. The action is so spontaneous, so all but inevitable, that only the most compulsive theological case against it would deter me. And I hardly know how the rest of my prayers would survive if those for the dead were forbidden. At our age, the majority of those we love best are dead. What sort of intercourse with God could I have if what I love best were unmentionable to him? I believe in Purgatory.”
 
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I think PennEd is spot on in what he said Angelique, if you feel it is about the occult and aren't comfortable with it don't read or watch C.S. Lewis. As others had said The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe is a beautiful allegory of Jesus' death and resurrection.
Yes there may be things wrong with his beliefs but there are probably things wrong with most of our beliefs. Many of his books on Christianity are really good.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
So just give him a free pass? His use of witches and wizards to illustrate spiritual truth has no basis in Scripture. And some of his false theology comes through.
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Applying your same standards to your own positions makes you a fail...
 
I like Chronicles of Narnia. I’ve read some of his other books, too. I should reread them.
 
graceNpeace said:
More than a fail - KJVO...
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You call that a "fail"? That is truly pathetic. I do not subscribe to any lunatic fringe ideas, so come up with something better, or retract your negative comment.

I posted a survey of Bible reading in America in 2017 here on CC, and guess what? The majority of respondents were reading the King James Bible. Which means that it is outstanding.

Back to C.S. Lewis. He had some clearly unbiblical beliefs about many things. We could have a separate thread on the errors of Lewis.
 
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Angelique said:
It is not about what I think. Its what the bible says about it.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through fire, a diviner, a soothsayer, an enchanter, a sorcerer, 11 a spell-caster, a consulter of ghosts or spirits, or a necromancer. 12 For whoever does these things is detestable to YAHWEH, and because of these abominations YAHWEH your God is driving them out ahead of you. 13 You must be wholehearted with YAHWEH your God.

By what you are saying you can (for example) watch porn and not be in sin, because you dont engage in it.

But watching /listening or reading bad things will influance a person, and in time will make you drift away...
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I agree with this completely, and think it's very Biblical.

But the issue hinges on HOW WE DEFINE A "BAD THING."



Thinking it through - What is a "bad thing"?

1. Does it constitute a "bad thing" to merely mention witchcraft, or does the "badness" really depend on the context, and how the witchcraft is presented?

2. Since the bible mentions witchcraft, then it cannot be a "bad thing" to merely mention it... it must be dependent on context.

3. Once we've established there's a principle of context at work, we can apply this principle of context to other topics, and other situations.




When navigating our culture, it's good to get past the surface of things, and see if there are Biblical principles at work at a deeper level, down below the surface.
 
Lewis is responsible for bringing more people to a somewhat reasoned faith than most of this forum combined.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
You call that a "fail"? That is truly pathetic. I do not subscribe to any lunatic fringe ideas, so come up with something better, or retract your negative comment.

I posted a survey of Bible reading in America in 2017 here on CC, and guess what? The majority of respondents were reading the King James Bible. Which means that it is outstanding.

Back to C.S. Lewis. He had some clearly unbiblical beliefs about many things. We could have a separate thread on the errors of Lewis.
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Fair enough - state your exact views on the KJV....
That fact that many or most read the KJV (myself included) does not define them as KJVO.
However I have seen you defend the indefensible, as far as the KJV goes anyway.

If I really have this wrong I will gladly, and graciously, retract my statement...
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
So just give him a free pass? His use of witches and wizards to illustrate spiritual truth has no basis in Scripture. And some of his false theology comes through.
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if we want to criticize his theological views, we should probably be talking about his theological books & essays, not his fiction.
 
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