Cs lewis Christian or Occult?
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Lewis wrote the Narnia stories to introduce children to the concepts of Christianity. Aslan the lion portrays Christ (even though it is not stated, if you read it, you can see the comparisons he was going for.) Many a child (and adult!) has watched the movie and enjoyed it even though they had no idea what Lewis was portraying in a fiction story for children. And the witch who rules the kingdom of Narnia portrays satan/the tempter.
But, even nonchristians like our story because they watch action-adventure movies all of the time that portray good vs. evil, with good winning in the end. Or love stories, which cannot be told without a sacrifice of some sort. No matter how irreligious Hollywood may try to be, they CAN'T tell their stories without good vs. evil or sacrifice out of love. Our story IS the only story - it's told over and over in every book or movie. Once you realize it, you see it in every story ever told - no matter HOW hard the writer or director is trying to be irreligious. There IS only one story!
In fact, you can even see it in stories you think it is impossible to see it in. Like...vampire stories. One bite and then doomed forever to an undying dead state. Compare that to how God forbade that to happen to us by refusing them to eat the fruit that would make them live forever in a corrupted state after the fall/poisoning.
And think about how one corrupted person (vampire) then infects all others and dooms them too, and compare it to our story!
Many Christians are treating the Narnia books as being an allegory, with Aslan representing Jesus and the children representing Christians. If you do this with The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, then you portray Jesus as being pleased when Christians do magic and work spells. And you support the idea that that there are good spells and good magic. That belief is the basis for modern white witchcraft. However, the Bible clearly forbids any form of witchcraft.
Well, to the outside world miraculous healings, and other miraculous blessings WILL seem like magic. I'll bet the walls tumbling down by marching around, fire engulfing drenched wood, the blind seeing, the dead raised to life, and MANY other miracles seemed like magic to the unsaved.
It's worth noting that Lewis' fiction was also a sort of whimsical gateway to the Medieval view of the world. He found the almost total loss of it to be a tragedy.
It's also worth noting that folksy fairytale magic is different from occultism. By a llllllllong shot.
I'm not going into details, but I researched the occult with some intensity last year. To the point things started getting a little weird.
I'm not going into details, but I researched the occult with some intensity last year. To the point things started getting a little weird.
You have been told more than once that the WHITE WITCH represents evil in the story. You can put whatever spin you like on it, the wonder of childhood seems to be lost on on you. You have a right to choose which books you read for leisure purposes but you won't spoil my enjoyment. I've been a fan of CS Lewis fiction for many years. My nephews, nieces and many children of friends all read those stories and other fairy tales growing up and have even passed them on to their children. None of them are Pagans or sorcerers. Most of them are born again and attend church.
My Irish father used to tell us tales of leprechauns when I was a child, we were fascinated but neither myself nor my siblings believe in leprechauns now.
There are people who will rob others of joy if you let them. I'm not allowing you to do that. I don't support or practice sorcery or witchcraft. You're verging on running a mean-spirited a smear-campaign. All you've done is come here with a bee in your bonnet, not to discuss a body of literature.
Aaron’s Miraculous Rod (NKJV)
8 Then the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, 9 “When Pharaoh speaks to you, saying, ‘Show a miracle for yourselves,’ then you shall say to Aaron, ‘Take your rod and cast it before Pharaoh, and let it become a serpent.’” 10 So Moses and Aaron went in to Pharaoh, and they did so, just as the Lord commanded. And Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers; so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12 For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents. But Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods. 13 And Pharaoh’s heart grew hard, and he did not heed them, as the Lord had said.
8 Then the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, 9 “When Pharaoh speaks to you, saying, ‘Show a miracle for yourselves,’ then you shall say to Aaron, ‘Take your rod and cast it before Pharaoh, and let it become a serpent.’” 10 So Moses and Aaron went in to Pharaoh, and they did so, just as the Lord commanded. And Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers; so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12 For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents. But Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods. 13 And Pharaoh’s heart grew hard, and he did not heed them, as the Lord had said.
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Tinuviel
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Never, EVER judge a book by the movie...much less the author of the book by the book's movie. When you've read the books and researched C. S. Lewis a bit, get back to us and we can discuss the author. If we want to talk about the movies, that's cool. Which film did you watch? The BBC one, (accurate and cheap), or the newer one, (far less accurate and much more expensive)?
Few things are more annoying than the diehard LOTR movie fans.
That's like being a fan of steak when you've only ever had ground chuck.
That's like being a fan of steak when you've only ever had ground chuck.
@lucy
You do what you want oké? You may have your view on things and I will have mine. I have had some useful insights on this topic from other people wich is appreciated.
Do not say I rob you joy, because I am not able to do that. If something takes your joy away its you letting it happen. And no one is forcing you to read this topic.
The point of a discussion is to talk about a subject and looking at the subject from different sides. And I am not mean spirited or on a smear campain just because I do not share your opinion. You make this about YOU it is not about you. It’s about the bible.
God bless
You do what you want oké? You may have your view on things and I will have mine. I have had some useful insights on this topic from other people wich is appreciated.
Do not say I rob you joy, because I am not able to do that. If something takes your joy away its you letting it happen. And no one is forcing you to read this topic.
The point of a discussion is to talk about a subject and looking at the subject from different sides. And I am not mean spirited or on a smear campain just because I do not share your opinion. You make this about YOU it is not about you. It’s about the bible.
God bless
Agree, thank you for sharing! You gave me a new insight. I am going to apply this. Thank you
If this is about the Bible why is the thread called " Cs lewis Christian or Occult?"
I'm not making this about me. I have read the author extensively, you haven't. So I shouldn't comment because you already know all about his work? It was you who asked the question. But what you really want is people to agree with your assertion that the author is an occult writer. I know that's not true.
No one is forcing me to read this topic? True, but it happens to be a subject of great interest to myself and one I am familiar with. No one is forcing you to read books of fiction either but that hasn't stopped you making a thread about something you haven't even read.
So you have made it clear, you don't want to hear from someone who knows the subject you have raised. You just want to gather a group to tear down the works of CS Lewis. I'll butt out now and let you have at it.
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Tinuviel
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I actually find the the people who claim to be diehard book fans who have only read the books once and don't remember anything to be worse. (True story).
How could they not remember anything from the books?
Did they just skim LOTR to win a golden ticket?
Did they just skim LOTR to win a golden ticket?