Daniel 11:37, The Future Antichrist Will Be A Jew/Hebrew In Decent

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Truth7t7

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Bro...he believes Jesus is God. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus is Michael the Archangel
I'm kidding, I know what they believe

You believe the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, God's #1 man on earth right?
 

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I'm kidding you, JWs dont believe Jesus is God, Smile!

my pastor is a big fan of double negatives:

Christ is never not God
i.e. Christ is God, always God, and there is never a time when He is not God ;)
 
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Offer Nimrod Mairantz - Quora

Why would someone have the name nimrod? I think he lives in Israel. he is a big fan of birds ..does that mean anything?

I am most likely very very wrong.

Going full tin-foil hat here ..I suspect elon musk will be involved. Does anyone else see the number of the beast in his new child's name?
X Æ A-12

X, the unknown variable

Æ, elven spelling of Ai (Artificial intelligence)

let's see how many laugh reactions I can get.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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The anti Christ cannot be a Pope. Every Pope has believed the Messiah was Jesus. That’s dogma. Dogma cannot be changed once it is promulgated.

It’s simply impossible for a future Pope to be that either. There is no way a priest can spend decades and decades doing his job while at the same time rejecting the divinity of Christ. There is no way that priest would not be expelled much less become a Cardinal that could be considered for election to the Bishop of Rome.
The pope claims to be Christ because he claims to be pontifex maximus "greatest priest".

Read about how the pope opens and closes the Holy door.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_door
What is the pope claiming?
John 10:9
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.

There are so many of these examples.
 
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Bro...he believes Jesus is God. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus is Michael the Archangel
Jesus is Michael the Archangel. He is also David.

Archangel means messenger in chief, chief of the angels. Who is more the messenger in chief than the Word Himself?
 

GodMyFortress

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The pope claims to be Christ because he claims to be pontifex maximus "greatest priest".

Read about how the pope opens and closes the Holy door.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_door
What is the pope claiming?
John 10:9
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.

There are so many of these examples.
You really believe the Pope thinks he Jesus Christ?
 

GodMyFortress

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Jesus is Michael the Archangel. He is also David.

Archangel means messenger in chief, chief of the angels. Who is more the messenger in chief than the Word Himself?
I know who Michael the Archangel is, and that ain’t Jesus. But if you want to believe in that late 19th century cult that hangs out in a watchtower, more power to you.
 

Lafftur

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The final antichrist will be an Assyrian. Isaiah speaks of him.

Just search all scripture references of “Assyrian” mentioned in the book of Isaiah.
 

Rondonmon

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Jesus is Michael the Archangel. He is also David.

Archangel means messenger in chief, chief of the angels. Who is more the messenger in chief than the Word Himself?
We see Gabriel, Micheal, and Jesus (Man in Linen) in the vision/dream Daniel had that last for all three chapters, Daniel 10, 11, and 12. Micheal is like Gabriel, and Arch Angel, Jesus is the Son of God. People who ask me, where is Jesus in the Old Testament, almost every time you hear the English word Salvation in the Old Testament and its said in a PERSONAL way, it s[eaking about Jesus because the Hebrew Word for Salvation is Yeshua.

In the Old Testament, every time you see Salvation mentioned in the Old Testament the word SALVATION (especially with the Hebrew suffix meaning "my," thy," or "his"), with very few exceptions (when the word is impersonal), it is the very same word, YESHUA (Jesus) used in Matt. 1:21. The very name Gabriel told Mary to use for her Son in Luke 1:31. The Angel of course didn't speak Latin or English (hehe) but he used the word Yeshua which means SALVATION !! And we know in the Bible God uses names for people to make statements. In Gen. 5:29 Lamech named his son Noah (COMFORT), in Gen. 10:25 Eber calls his firstborn son Peleg (DIVISION). Moses meant (DRAWN FORTH). etc. etc.

Now then, when the angel spoke to Joseph, husband of Mary, the mother of our Lord, this is what he really said and what Joseph actually understood: And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus [YESHUA (SALVATION)]: for he shall save [or salvage] his people from their sins. (Matthew 1:21).

Let us proceed to show the Hebrew name Yeshua (Greek = Iesus English = Jesus) in the Old Testament

When the great Patriarch Jacob was ready to depart from this world, he by the Holy Spirit was blessing his sons and prophetically foretelling their future experiences in those blessings. In verse 18 of Genesis 49 he exclaims, I have waited for thy salvation, 0 Lord! What he really did say and mean was, "To thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am looking, 0 Lord"; or, "In thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am hoping (trusting), Lord!" That makes much better sense.

Of course, YESHUA (Jesus) was the One in Whom Jacob was trusting to carry him safely over the chilly waters of the river of death. Jacob was a saved man and did not wait until his dying moments to start trusting in the Lord. He just reminded God that he was at the same time comforting his own soul.

In Psalms 9:14, David bursts forth, I will rejoice in thy salvation. What he actually did say and mean was, "I will rejoice in (with) thy YESHUA (Jesus)."

In Psalm 91:14-16 God says, Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high [raise him above circumstances], because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him. With long life [eternal life] will I satisfy him, and show him my [YESHUA (Jesus)] salvation. Of course. That promise is realized in Revelation 22:3, 4: And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it: and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see HIS face.

In Isaiah 12:2, 3 we have something wonderful. Here SALVATION is mentioned three times. The reader will be much blessed by reading these glorious verses in his Bible, but let me give them as they actually read in the original Hebrew with Jesus as the embodiment and personification of the word SALVATION: Behold, might (or, God the mighty One) is my YESHUA (Jesus-in His pre-incarnation and eternal existence); I will trust and not be afraid:, for JAH-JAHOVAH is my strength and my song; He also is become my YESHUA (Jesus).... And the WORD (Jesus incarnate) became flesh and dwelt among us. (John 1: 14). ... Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of YESHUA [Jesus - waters of salvation flowing forth from Golgotha]."

Then skipping on to Habakkuk, we have the greatest demonstration of the NAME "Jesus" in the Old Testament; for here we have both the name as well as the title of the Savior. In Habakkuk 3:13 we read literally from the original Hebrew: Thou wentest forth with the YESHA [variant of ESHUA-Jesus] of [or for] thy people; with YESHUA thy MESSIAH [thine Anointed One: i.e., with Jesus thy Anointed] thou woundest the head of the house of the wicked one [Satan]. Here you have it! The very NAME given to our Lord in the New Testament - JESUS CHRIST! So don't let anyone - Jew or Gentile - tell you that the Name JESUS is not found in the Old Testament. And so when the aged Simeon came to the Temple, led there by the Holy Spirit, and took the baby Yeshua in his arms, he said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation [YESHUA (Jesus)] (Luke 2:29-30). Certainly! Not only did his eyes see God's Salvation - God's YESHUA (Jesus) - but he felt Him and touched Him. His believing heart beat with joy and assurance as he felt the loving heart of God throbbing in the heart of the holy infant YESHUA.

And thou shalt call his name Jesus (SALVATION = YESHUA); for he shall save [salvage] his people from their sins!

I copy and pasted this from one of my old studies, written by a Jewish Christian who finally realized he could tell his family, Jesus really was in the Old Testament.

Names have special meanings, I am pretty sure Jesus/Yeshua's name has always stood for Salvation.
 

Lafftur

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The false prophet and the antichrist will be second cousins.....they are a mirror image of Jesus Christ and John the Baptist.
 
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The final antichrist will be an Assyrian. Isaiah speaks of him.

Just search all scripture references of “Assyrian” mentioned in the book of Isaiah.
could his name be nimrod?
 

Lafftur

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Where does it say they will look like them?
The scriptures don’t plainly say this...it’s hidden.

Almost everything that was spoken of the childhood and ministry of the True Christ Jesus is a marker for us to recognize the antichrist and false prophet.

They’ll follow closely but not exactly the same script.

The 7 years of Tribulation are not consecutive....it’s split- the True Christ Jesus got the first 3 1/2 years in public ministry and the antichrist will get the last 3 1/2 years.
 

Rondonmon

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The final antichrist will be an Assyrian. Isaiah speaks of him.

Just search all scripture references of “Assyrian” mentioned in the book of Isaiah.
Yes, AND he will be born in Greece AND he will come to power in the European Union.

In other words, he has to be a Turk or from the Iraqi/Turkish/Syrian area, but most of the Assyrian empire was in Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey. He only has to have that bloodline. He has to be born in Greece according to Daniel 8:9, there is no other argument, and it's not debatable, period. The bible tells us where he WAXES GREAT TOWARDS. In other words, God gives us a sorta four winds directional box, then he gives us Four Generals that represent those four corners, the main players are Seleucus(modern-day Turkey), Egypt, and Cassander (Greece). Then in the end times to says he WAXES GREAT TOWARDS, the East and TOWARDS the south, thus it can only be a King that coms out of the Northwest thus it can only be Greece. In Daniel 11:40-43 we see he conquers Israel and all of North Africa. Seleucus can't conquer the East unless he goes to war with Iran and Russia, besides this is supposed to be an INTER EMPIRE STRUGGLE for all of Daniel 11. Egypt gets conquered by the Anti-Christ, so says Dan. 11:40-43.


Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
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Lastly, this Anti-Christ also has to arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head, amongst the 10 Horns, and for nigh 2000 years or 1800 or 1600, (I think its nigh 2000, the Church delivered the Mortal Wound to the Beast Rome) so for nigh 2000 years IMHO, the 10 (which means COMPLETE Europe) were divided and could not reunite no matter what they tried, even via the seed of men (Royal Marriage) they failed to reunite, until Israel became a nation again, then within 10 years, you had the Council of Rome creating the European Union, which has Greece in it !! That is very important because this man is an Assyrian Turk and Turks have a common border with Greece and many Turks have migrated to Greece and vice versa, of course, thus this Assyrian can (was) be born in Greece, like Dan. 8:9 says, and he can then become the European President like Daniel chapter 7 says he will be.

Daniel 11 gives us his FORERUNNER in Antiochus, and he had a False Prophet FORERUNNER under him named Jason (real name Yeshua) who bribed Antiochus to be named the Hogh Priest, thus having his pious High Priest brother, Onias III killed. He then tried to Hellenize the Jews, leading to the Maccabean Revolt. And he also openly welcomed Antiochus into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus. The end times False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest, the Anti-Christ little Horn has an Assyrian bloodline, he born in Greece (like Antiochus) and comes to power in the E.U.
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QUESTION GUYS: I saw something new last night in my studies of the 10 that were BROKEN APART and thus DIVIDED. When I thought about how I now think of the 10 as a Complete Europe DIVIDED, suddenly this verse could maybe be seen in a different light. Could this (I haven't studied it in-depth at all yet) BROKEN I PIECES actually be referencing the Iron and Clay portion of Daniel 2, where the Kingdom becomes broken up? Andis thus DIVIDED for many years !!

Dan. 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the FEET of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

So, as I looked, I wondered if it could mean this, Rome was exceedingly STRONG, then BROKE INTO PIECES (Iron and lay), and in the End Times, it STAMPED with its Feet (10 toes). Just the way my mind works, a lot of the times I will discount things after an in-depth study, but a lot of times I find hidden nuggets this way. What made me think, maybe it's not meaning that was right afterward it spoke about the 10 horns, which come from the head, not the feet of course.
 

Dino246

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"Daniel 11:37, The Future Antichrist Will Be A Jew/Hebrew In Decent"

Your spelling is indecent.

As to the statement, the verse says nothing explicitly about Jewish ancestry.
 

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Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
This points to the antichrist.
2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.
This points to Amon who was not the antichrist. There were worse kings in Judah.
2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
This points to Ahaz, a wicked king but not even a type of the antichrist.

Why not use someone like Nimrod? A true globalist...

Genesis 10:8-10 (KJV) And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Genesis 11:1-8 (KJV) And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

I believe Nimrod the Gentile makes a better type of the AC than your theory it is a Jew.
 

Truth7t7

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This points to the antichrist.

This points to Amon who was not the antichrist. There were worse kings in Judah.

This points to Ahaz, a wicked king but not even a type of the antichrist.

Why not use someone like Nimrod? A true globalist...

Genesis 10:8-10 (KJV) And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Genesis 11:1-8 (KJV) And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

I believe Nimrod the Gentile makes a better type of the AC than your theory it is a Jew.
Big Smiles!

The verses in Kings and Chronicles were specifically used showing (God Of His Fathers) that pertained to the true Hebrew/Jewish God, enforcing my claim in Daniel 11:37 and nothing more

You infer I'm suggesting the Antichrist is seen in the verses, (Wrong) :)

The Pharaoh of Egypt is the best anti type, because when the 2 witnesses of Rev 11 take their stand, it will be a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, all plagues as often as they will, noisome scores, water to blood, scorching sun, darkness