By the way, year-day theory is still bogus, especially when it is specially said "days and nights" as in 24-hour cycle.
Daniel's 1260 vs. 1290 vs. 1335 vs. 2300 Days
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Oh and BTW, Christ Jesus chose to be incarnated precisely into our fractal macro-scale environment.
Because you see, this is a necessary parameter to actualize His desire to seek and save that which was lost, and to facilitate His plan of SALVATION.
You do not seem to recognize the purpose and end result of this creation:
Destroying the works of the devil and the redemption of that which was lost.
Where do those works integrate into your "theories"?
"Long story short, the Israelites were *nourishing* their freshly conceived Messiah for 1260 years until he was born."
Correction:
The Exodus occurred about 1603BC. And the first tabernacle was erected almost exactly one year later. So 1260 years to Christ is no Bueno.
Even the standard but erroneous Bible chronology puts the Exodus at 1446BC.
And your nonsensical assertion that Revelation has actionable content dated to Abraham is hilariously wrong. Everything after chapter 5 happens post-rapture!
Immanuel at the sub-cellular level? Or as a fully integrated whole Person, a body whereby He could relate directly to us?
Isa 7:14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Immanuel is the Hebrew name עִמָּנוּ אֵל — ʿImmānû ʾĒl, formed from three elements:
- עִם — ʿim = “with”
- ־נוּ — nû = “us” or “our”
- אֵל — ʾĒl = “God”
Thus:
The first two elements combine:
The doubled m in ʿimmānû reflects the Hebrew consonantal formation when the pronominal suffix ־נוּ is attached to עִם.
You mean every time someone said, "We only die once! - Hebrews 9:27!!!", they were lying?
I guess that means the Rapture is still on.
So, what are 'all indications'?
Folks seem to be split on that.
If that is the case, then the Bible is contradicting itself. All of the verses reference a time like no other:
They all reference the same event. I don't believe in, nor do I teach contradictions.
Like I said, all of the verses I referenced begin in 70 AD and end at the Second Coming of Christ.
So, you believe Daniel's 'seventy sevens' is just some meaningless phrase because the words 'day' or 'night' are not there?
That would be the Word Made Flesh. We call that Gene Expression now.
The Serpent on a Pole is what we now call RNA.
The Stone with Seven Eyes is what we now call a Nucleobase.
The Two Witnesses are symbolic of two Chromatids joined to form a Chromosome.
Do you know what Kenosis is?
The Israelites who were bitten dragged themselves in agony to the RNA on a pole to avoid death?
And RNA is a type of the crucified Christ? And believing in RNA will grant eternal life?
[Num 21:8 KJV] 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
[John 3:14–15 KJV]
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Your pretensions seem like insane heretical pseudo biblical nuttery to me.
No, I believe "week" therein is referring to a septet, it could be a septet of anything; judging by the context it's obviously septet of years; that has nothing to do with day-year theory, since "day" is not mentioned at all, you said it yourself.
Daniel 11:31—The purpose of this thread is to discover what would happen if all of Daniel's 'days' prophecies were consistently interpreted using the Day/Year Principle:
Day-year principle - Wikipedia
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This would include prophecies regarding the Two Witnesses found in the Book of Revelation. In other words, they prophecy for 1260 years.
Here is a condensed list of the various 'days' we find as well as their corresponding 'years':
We will start with the longest one, the 2300 days:
- Revelation 11:11 - Three days and an half = 3-1/2 years
- Daniel 7:25 - A time and times and the dividing of time = 1260 years
- Daniel 12:7 - A time, times, and an half = 1260 years
- Revelation 11:2 - Forty and two months = 1260 years
- Revelation 13:5 - Forty and two months = 1260 years
- Revelation 11:3 - A thousand two hundred and threescore days = 1260 years
- Revelation 12:6 - A thousand two hundred and threescore days = 1260 years
- Revelation 12:14 - A time, and times, and half a time = 1260 years
- Daniel 12:11 - A thousand two hundred and ninety days = 1290 years
- Daniel 8:14 - Two thousand and three hundred days = 2300 years
One of the most important aspects of interpreting these days/years correctly is to accurately determine either the starting point or the end point. For example, some assumed that the beginning of the 2300 days started around the time when the prophecy was first announced. This pushed the end date to the year 1844. Unfortunately, this ended up causing something called "The Great Disappointment".
Great Disappointment - Wikipedia
What if we assumed that the Sanctuary being cleansed happened during the Crucifixion? This is a belief held by some. That would mean that the starting point would be 2300 years BCE. According to many scholars, 2300 years before Jesus would fit perfectly with the Flood of Noah.
This is a fascinating correlation. We will go with this for now. What about 1260 days/years? We turn to Revelation to get us started:
The 'wilderness' may be a reference to the wilderness that the Israelites fled to during the time of Moses. If we assume a 'late date' Exodus, i.e. 1260 BCE, this would put the end date at the birth of Jesus. So far, everything points to Jesus.
What about the Two Witnesses?
Many scholars agree that the Two Witnesses are symbolic of the Law and Prophets. Once again, we see that 1260 years fits perfectly from Moses to John the Baptist. This is another perfect match.
What about the 3-1/2 days that the Two Witnesses were dead?
John the Baptist, the last of the Two Witnesses, was killed around the time Jesus began his ministry.
3-1/2 years later, in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel, the Two Witnesses are raised during the Crucifixion. A great earthquake occurred:
The Two Witnesses came to life. Once again, everything matches with precise timing. Moreover, it all points to Jesus. Amen?
So far, what we see is that the 1260 days begins around the Exodus and ends with the birth of Jesus. Thirty years later, at 1290 in the timeline, Jesus begins his ministry:
This means that the Abomination of Desolation was being set up at that time:
Now we know with absolute clarity when this even occurred. The Abomination of Desolation was the Crucifixion.
That leaves us with the 1335 years date, again starting at Exodus:
We all know what happened approximately 45 years after the Abomination of Desolation was set up...
Blessed were those that 'saw', i.e., understood the 1335 days prophecy and were able to leave and rebuild their lives before the destruction of 70AD.
Summary:
Once again, all dates point to Jesus as it should. Here are some graphics to help illustrate the timelines:
- 2300 BCE to the Crucifixion = Daniel's 2300 Days
- 1260 BCE to the birth of Jesus = Daniel's 1260 Days
- 1260 BCE to the beginning of the ministry of Jesus = Daniel's 1290 Days (30 years later)
- 1260 BCE to the destruction of the final temple = Daniel's 1335 Days (45 years later)
and...
“Forces from him will profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and will take away the continual burnt offering. Then they will set up the abomination that makes desolate. He will corrupt those who do wickedly against the covenant by flatteries; but the people who know their God will be strong and take action.
That sound like Jesus to you?
Did Lazarus die again after the Lord raised him from the dead?
Consider the possibility that what Hebrews 9:27 says is in the sense of "die [at least] once" (along with "usually the case") and not "die exactly-and-only once - never more or less for anyone - no exceptions"...
Unless there are multiple resurrections beyond what the Bible tells us about.I guess that means the Rapture is still on.
Does the Bible indicate any other likely possibility?
How many glorified-body kind of resurrections are we told about in the Bible?
Not going to bother getting into this at this time - do not have time right now - however, I believe those verses you posted have a lot more "differences" than you realize - read carefully...
At this point in time, I will say briefly that I believe that where the word 'days' is actually used (please understand the context), it is referring to actual [24-hour] days - the other words used in other places (i.e. months, time/times) refer to a time span counted in years.I will address this a bit later on when I have more time to spend on it specifically. Please be patient. Lord willing, I will get to it sooner rather than later...
There are several entities being referenced in the verse you quoted. Which one are you referring to?
One thing is certain. None of them are Antiochus IV Epiphanes.
Yes, I was being sarcastic. Obviously the Second Death contradicts the standard false interpretation that "everyone has to die and it's only one time".
Like I said earlier, folks are split:
I believe it is clearly stated:
Common sense teaches us that 'many' is not 'all'. Moreover, we know from Revelation that the two resurrections mentioned do not happen on the same day as Daniel 12:2 implies.
So, if only a few believers in Christ are ever resurrected, what happens to the rest? Do they just sleep for infinity?
You answer? My questions?
No, I have never asked you any questions.
Why would I when I already have the correct answers?
Furthermore, you mistakenly think that me questioning your answers is me asking.
But no, I am not.