Dealing with the idea of Hell

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Sirk said:
There is no way I'm clicking on that link.
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Uh, the link was not provided so as to get you to believe what they say. The Bible condemns their immoral lifestyle very clearly (Even though they prefer not to see it). The link was provided to show you that such people use that word so as to describe themselves. You are attempting to use a word that somebody created that was intended as a backhanded insult (Which is wrong).
 
Jason0047 said:
It was not intended to you believe what they say. The Bible condemns their immoral lifestyle. It is to show you that such people use that word so as to describe themselves. You are attempting to use a word that somebody created that was intended as a backhanded insult (Which is wrong).
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Dangit...and here I thought I created it.....I guess there is nothing new under the sun.

Jason....stop being such a whiner. It is unfitting for a man of God to be such a crybaby. Your whole persona on this site wreaks of every whiney character flaw victim mentality I can imagine. I've told you this before....get help. Go see a counselor and get away from the psychopaths who are poisoning your mind.
 
Sirk said:
Dangit...and here I thought I created it.....I guess there is nothing new under the sun.

Jason....stop being such a whiner. It is unfitting for a man of God to be such a crybaby. Your whole persona on this site wreaks of every whiney character flaw victim mentality I can imagine. I've told you this before....get help. Go see a counselor and get away from the psychopaths who are poisoning your mind.
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I am only exposing your wrong behavior. It is not becoming of a Christian to use insulting words towards another. It is not Biblical.

For Jesus said,

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36).

Do you honestly feel that you can explain to a holy God your type of conversation here as to why it is loving and good (and then back that up your words with Scripture)?


 
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Jason0047 said:
I am only exposing your wrong behavior. It is not becoming of a Christian to use insulting words towards another. It is not Biblical.

For Jesus said,

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36).
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Well thank you for getting the splinter out of my eye. Don't forget tho...theres a whole forest full trees you need to be logging in your own backyard.....you just have to get past the "I'm free from sin" glitch in your operating system. There is this program...it's called "The Cross". It's free to download and it doesn't even require a wifi connection....it's over the air.
 
JesusIsAll said:

Well, I'm sure there's an observation that's going to result in a torrent of proper exegesis, from henceforth.

Now that we've established bears do you-know-what in the woods, should we perhaps move on to primates?
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Pfft cmon, we all know primates dont do that. Thats disgusting and really rustle's this gorilla's jimmies. jimmies-rustle.jpg
 
Sirk said:
Well thank you for getting the splinter out of my eye. Don't forget tho...theres a whole forest full trees you need to be logging in your own backyard.....you just have to get past the "I'm free from sin" glitch in your operating system. There is this program...it's called "The Cross". It's free to download and it doesn't even require a wifi connection....it's over the air.
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Men will be held accountable at the Judgment for every idle word that they say. The cross will not pay that sin for them. Hence, why they will be held accountable at a Judgment by what they say. So yes, sin still can separate a person from God and make them accountable before God at the Judgment.
 
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Sirk said:
Dangit...and here I thought I created it.....I guess there is nothing new under the sun.

Jason....stop being such a whiner. It is unfitting for a man of God to be such a crybaby. Your whole persona on this site wreaks of every whiney character flaw victim mentality I can imagine. I've told you this before....get help. Go see a counselor and get away from the psychopaths who are poisoning your mind.
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Is bromospiritual taken? People who only go to church when there bros do?
 
Jason0047 said:
Men will be held accountable at the Judgment for every idle word that they say. The cross will not pay that sin for them. Hence, why they will be held accountable at a Judgment by what they say. So yes, sin still can separate a person from God and make them accountable before God at the Judgment.
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Dude....did you leave your brain somewhere? "the cross will not pay that sin for them". You wanna know why the cross won't pay YOUR sin......because there is no indication that you have ever been broken before it.....none...nada...zilch. You have no testimony other than your own righteousness and goodness. You're a clanging cymbal and a banging gong.
 
Jason0047 said:
Again, you are attempting to insult me personally. This is not a Biblical practice. It runs contrary to being a Christian who is supposed to love all people. It is beng hateful and not loving. See 1 John 3:15.
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Dude...I'm just being truthful with you. When I hold you up to the measurement of the mighty men of scripture....you sound like a whimpering puppy.

you really need to grow a set and get over yourself.
 
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Sirk said:
Dude....did you leave your brain somewhere? "the cross will not pay that sin for them". You wanna know why the cross won't pay YOUR sin......because there is no indication that you have ever been broken before it.....none...nada...zilch. You have no testimony other than your own righteousness and goodness. You're a clanging cymbal and a banging gong.
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You say that which you have not done. A person who is broken before God and repents of their sins does not continue in sin and or propogate the idea that people can sin and still be saved. They also do not seek to insult others, either. Jesus can forgive a person of speaking bad against others, but one must repent of those sins, though (i.e. to confess and forsake those sins).
 
Sirk said:
Dude...I'm just being truthful with you. When I hold you up to the measurement of the mighty men of scripture....you sound like a whimpering puppy.

you really need to grow a set and get over yourself.
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That does not answer 1 John 3:15.
 
Jason0047 said:
You say that which you have not done. A person who is broken before God and repents of their sins does not continue in sin and or propogate the idea that people can sin and still be saved. They also do not seek to insult others, either. Jesus can forgive a person of speaking bad against others, but one must repent of those sins, though (i.e. to confess and forsake those sins).
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Says the guy who speaks bad of everyone. Your insults are the worst kind...because they are all wrapped up pretty... in false humility and self righteous gobbly gook. Debating scripture with you is like teaching a 3 toed sloth, safe motor vehicle operation. We gotta get past your homospirituality before any learning of scripture can be had.
 
Anyways, moving on (back to the thread topic):

Conditional immortality rejoices in the truth of 1 John 4:8: "God is love." The man who accepts the plain biblical statement that the end of the wicked is "destruction" (Philippians 3:19) is not faced with the ever-present question, "How can a God of love maintain a chamber of horrors somewhere in the universe throughout eternity?"What would we think of a parent who punished his child by holding even the tip of its finger in searing flame for a few minutes or a few seconds? Such an individual would certainly be regarded as bestial and demented. Nevertheless we are asked to believe that the Scriptures teach that God will thus torture "immortal human souls" for all time and eternity.Yet the Christian who believes in conditional immortality also believes that God is just and righteous. He rejoices in "just and right is he" (Deuteronomy 32:4). He believes in "the righteous judgment of God" (Romans 2:5). He sees that the justice of God requires the punishment of sin.


Source:
Why I Believe In Conditional Immortality
 
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Jason0047 said:
Anyways, moving on (back to the thread topic):

Conditional immortality rejoices in the truth of 1 John 4:8: "God is love." The man who accepts the plain biblical statement that the end of the wicked is "destruction" (Philippians 3:19) is not faced with the ever-present question, "How can a God of love maintain a chamber of horrors somewhere in the universe throughout eternity?"What would we think of a parent who punished his child by holding even the tip of its finger in searing flame for a few minutes or a few seconds? Such an individual would certainly be regarded as bestial and demented. Nevertheless we are asked to believe that the Scriptures teach that God will thus torture "immortal human souls" for all time and eternity.Yet the Christian who believes in conditional immortality also believes that God is just and righteous. He rejoices in "just and right is he" (Deuteronomy 32:4). He believes in "the righteous judgment of God" (Romans 2:5). He sees that the justice of God requires the punishment of sin.


Source:
Why I Believe In Conditional Immortality
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Well Jason....still playing ring around the rosie with pockets full of posy I see. I'm getting to the point where I don't care what you believe or why you believe it. You pretty much just bug the crap outa me. Lol
 
In addition, Conditional immortality clarifies the gospel; it does not complicate it. Again it takes scriptural language in its simplest sense. Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."Here "death" means "death," and "life" means "life." But in the popular way of presenting this verse, "death" is said to mean "life somewhere in time or space in separation from God," and "life" is said to mean "life in the presence of God."But the issue in Romans 6:23 is not life in one place or life in another place. The issue is life or death, the complete possession of life or the complete absence of life. The definition that eternal death is a form of eternal life in separation from God is not in the Bible.Conditional immortality takes John 3:16 at face value. The issue therein is "perish" or "everlasting life." Again conditional immortality believes that perish means the utter loss and destruction of any form of life; hence, death.


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Why I Believe In Conditional Immortality
 
JesusLives said:
I don't agree with the red line of your statement.....God did not create evil angels....the angels God created were perfect in every way and functioned as perfect beings until they decided to follow and have sympathies with satan...then they chose to become evil.....their decision not God's creation.
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JesusLives..you are correct. I did not word that properly. What I should have said is that he knew when he created these angels that they would choose evil. Thanks for pointing this out. I try to word things carefully but this time I made a mistake. :)
 
sparkman said:
JesusLives..you are correct. I did not word that properly. What I should have said is that he knew when he created these angels that they would choose evil. Thanks for pointing this out. I try to word things carefully but this time I made a mistake. :)
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I hope I can be as gracious when I learn I have made a mistake.....thanks for your note.
 
Jason0047 said:
Men will be held accountable at the Judgment for every idle word that they say. The cross will not pay that sin for them. Hence, why they will be held accountable at a Judgment by what they say. So yes, sin still can separate a person from God and make them accountable before God at the Judgment.
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"The blood of Jesus Christ, God's Son, cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:7)

"When you were dead in your sins, and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins. " (Colossians 2:13)


Jason, all means all.

When a person becomes a Christian, his sins are forgiven and paid in full by Christ. There remains no further payment that can be made for them - no further expiation required.
 
Budman said:
"The blood of Jesus Christ, God's Son, cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:7)

"When you were dead in your sins, and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins. " (Colossians 2:13)


Jason, all means all.

When a person becomes a Christian, his sins are forgiven and paid in full by Christ. There remains no further payment that can be made for them - no further expiation required.
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Hang on I'll try to answer for Jason based on his arguments earlier in the thread.

"Well you see all doesn't actually mean all. According to this website (www. Twistingscripture. Com) when the Bible says "all," what it actually means is "whatever fits my current narrative."
 
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