Declare His name!

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does anyone know the difference between elohime and jehovah?
 
That sentence you're trying to bring forth doesnt even make sense.
that is because he refuses to speak english/

Not to mention. He has no idea what the actual name Abraham called him, He is reading a text written in hebrew to a hebrew speaking people. this whatever abraham said would have been translated to Hebrew
 
Spelling? ;) YEAH I know HAHAH

no.. HAHA

there is a specific difference.

In gen 1,, God ELOHIME created the heaven and the earth.

why did Moses not say, in the begining, Jehovah created the heavens and the earth?
 
Because one is plural and the other is singular

right, an important distinction (which also proves the trinity)

Gods name in plural is Elohim, his name (when speaking of one member of the godhead) is Jehovah. (in hebrew that is)


 
Question... if Abraham did not know His Name, how did he pray with it?

Genesis 12:8, "And he went from there to the hill east of Beth El, and he pitched his tent there; Beth El was to the west of him, and Ai was to the east. There he built an altar to Yahweh, and there he prayed with the Name of Yahweh."

Because of a mistranslation:

Exodus 6:3, "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Yaaqob as Yl Shaddai, but by MY NAME YAHWEH, was I not known to them?"

was I not known to them

or

I was not know to them

There are 43 (If I remember right) negative affirmations, and every one I know of is translated correctly...except this one. Now I understand this is new, but if you disagree how can you explain Abraham praying with a Name he did not know?



Text Analysis
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[TD="class: top"]Str[/TD]
[TD="class: top"]Translit[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 20%"]Hebrew[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 25%"]English[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 18%"]Morph[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]6275 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]way-ya‘-têq[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]וַיַּעְתֵּ֨ק[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]And he moved[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Verb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]8033 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]miš-šām[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]מִשָּׁ֜ם[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]from there[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adv[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2022 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hā-hā-rāh,[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]הָהָ֗רָה[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]to a mountain[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]6924 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]miq-qe-ḏem[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]מִקֶּ֛דֶם[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]on the east[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]lə-ḇêṯ-[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]לְבֵֽית־[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]of[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1008 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]’êl[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]אֵ֖ל[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]Bethel[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]5186 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]way-yêṭ[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]וַיֵּ֣ט[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]and pitched[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Verb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]168 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]’ā-ho-lōh;[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]אָהֳלֹ֑ה[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]his tent[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]bêṯ-[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]בֵּֽית־[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]with[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1008 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]’êl[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]אֵ֤ל[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]Bethel[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3220 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]mî-yām[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]מִיָּם֙[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]on the west[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]5857 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]wə-hā-‘ay[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]וְהָעַ֣י[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]and Ai[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]6924 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]miq-qe-ḏem,[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]מִקֶּ֔דֶם[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]on the east[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1129 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]way-yi-ḇen-[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]וַיִּֽבֶן־[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]and he built[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Verb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]8033 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]šām[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]שָׁ֤ם[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]there[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adv[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]4196 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]miz-bê-aḥ[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]מִזְבֵּ֙חַ֙[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]an altar[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3068 [e]
[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]Yah-weh,[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]לַֽיהוָ֔ה[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]to the LORD[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]7121 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]way-yiq-rā[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]וַיִּקְרָ֖א[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]and called[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Verb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]8034[e]
[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]bə-šêm[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]בְּשֵׁ֥ם[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]upon the name[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3068[e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]Yah-weh.[/TD]
[TD="class: hebrew2"]יְהוָֽה׃[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]of the LORD[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Noun[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

lol doesnt make sense, quick change the subject!

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It is hard to understand that there are believers in Christ who think that all those Christian martyrs who died in Roman arena or who were shot in their head for not denying Jesus, went to hell, because they didnt use a Hebrew word so for that reason God would not hear them. Did the Holy Spirit NOT give tongues to the apostles so the gospel was preached in THEIR OWN LANGUAGE to each person? Do you think Hittites and those others knew what Ruach meant, etc? Since when did we become Muslims so everyone must learn and recite Arabic like mantra in order to know God, oops, I mean Hebrew, and probably only native Hebrew speakers get to fully know God???
I am baffled that someone who knows Christ actually believes this...
 
It is hard to understand that there are believers in Christ who think that all those Christian martyrs who died in Roman arena or who were shot in their head for not denying Jesus, went to hell, because they didnt use a Hebrew word so for that reason God would not hear them. Did the Holy Spirit NOT give tongues to the apostles so the gospel was preached in THEIR OWN LANGUAGE to each person? Do you think Hittites and those others knew what Ruach meant, etc? Since when did we become Muslims so everyone must learn and recite Arabic like mantra in order to know God, oops, I mean Hebrew, and probably only native Hebrew speakers get to fully know God???
I am baffled that someone who knows Christ actually believes this...

who has said this?
 
I didn't know the name Jesus was only 400 years old though.. You did teach me something there chopper.. Thank you.. God does answer to it though I assure you.. Now I might start calling Him Yahshua because there's no way to YAHWEH, but by Yahshua
 
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lol doesnt make sense, quick change the subject!
I feel for those people you go to give the gospel to.

I bet you just walk away when they get confused. and call then names mock them, and hate on them because they do understand you talking in jibberish

talk about PRIDE, and you wonder why people call you phariseeic
 
@Hizikyah:
"I was not know to them" --- sorry, but how is this even a sentence?
You expect someone to believe that the text actually says something that meaningless?
 
(comic illustration)

*guy walks up to group of people*

Hey I just learned a really cool thing in my bible study today, we looked into the concordance and found out the real Name of the Father is YHWH.

* group of people*

get away from us speaking that disgusting hebrew i hate it hate it hate it!

*guy replies*

I never knew the truth was so offensive....
 
I didn't know the name Jesus was only 400 years old though.. You did teach me something there chopper.. Thank you.. God does answer to it though I assure you.. Now I might start calling Him Yashua because there's no way to YAHWEH, but by Yashua

The name given to mary was Jehosua (joshua, meaning jehova saves) in the hebrew, Translated into greek it was iesous, from which with the transliteration to english, gives us the name jesus.
 
@Hizikyah:
"I was not know to them" --- sorry, but how is this even a sentence?
You expect someone to believe that the text actually says something that meaningless?

L O L

So you are trying to enforce english grammatical rules upon a hebrew text...

or do we change the meaning of the text so it doesnt break english grammar

the text says what it says,

if you can answer how Abraham prayed with YHWH's name in Gen 12 without using His Name then maybe, but I dont see that as possible, plus every other negative affirmation has been properly translated.
 
The name given to mary was Jehosua (joshua, meaning jehova saves) in the hebrew, Translated into greek it was iesous, from which with the transliteration to english, gives us the name jesus.

How is that so when the Letter "J" has only been around for 400-440 years?

Online Etymology Dictionary
J the letter is a late modification of Roman -i-, originally a scribal creation in continental Medieval Latin to distinguish small -i- in cursive writing from the strokes of other letters, especially in the final positions of words. But in English, -y- was used for this, and -j- was introduced c.1600-1640 to take up the consonantal sound that had evolved from -i- since Late Latin times. This usage first was attested in Spanish, where it was in place before 1600. English dictionaries continued to lump together words beginning in -i- and -j- until 19c., and -j- formerly was skipped when letters were used to express serial order.
Online Etymology Dictionary


The Hebrew version of Matt uses Yeshua
 
L O L

So you are trying to enforce english grammatical rules upon a hebrew text...

or do we change the meaning of the text so it doesnt break english grammar

the text says what it says,

if you can answer how Abraham prayed with YHWH's name in Gen 12 without using His Name then maybe, but I dont see that as possible, plus every other negative affirmation has been properly translated.

"I was not know to them" --- what does this even mean?
Explain, paraphrase if you will to show what it means. But a sentence cannot be meaningless.
P.S. the verse I posted says they prayed to God Almighty but havent yet known the name YHWH. What is not clear?
 
(comic illustration)

*guy walks up to group of people*

Hey I just learned a really cool thing in my bible study today, we looked into the concordance and found out the real Name of the Father is YHWH.

* group of people*

get away from us speaking that disgusting hebrew i hate it hate it hate it!

*guy replies*

I never knew the truth was so offensive....

And here comes the pride and arrogance again. Wow. How you can live with yourself.

Oh wait,, Thats right, that is why yuo puff yourself up. You think your all that, and all of us lowlifes are nothing.