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Blain

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If you didn't believe me
All you had to do was just say
You didn't believe me.
It isn't that it is just if you make a claim that I am under a spell you need to be able to back it up
I mean what makes you think that? What evidence do you have to say so?
 

Haidabo

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It isn't that it is just if you make a claim that I am under a spell you need to be able to back it up
I mean what makes you think that? What evidence do you have to say so?
I don't need to
back anything up
I didn't say you
were under
Any spell
I said
The witch
That you think
You're going to lead to Jesus
Has cast spells on you.
And not just her
But other witches
In her coven.
 

Blain

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You play with fire
You're going to get burned.
Would you prefer that I leave her in her state of being chained by demons? is that what Jesus did to those afflicted? is that what he did to those who were sinners?
The only fire I fear is the fire of God's wrath no witch nor any practicer of magic can touch me I stand in the arms of Christ and no one can get past him.
 

Clayman

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Your resort to such relativistic language betrays the truth of God's word. While I do understand why you would choose that tactic, such bodes poorly for the countless who are needlessly suffering under demonic bondage as we speak.
Let me explain what I think you have done another way so you understand how I think!

Let me make up A parallel example similar to the Lord calling Peter Satan.

Say a husband cheats on his wife, and his wife calls him a good for nothing Judas.

She is referring to Judas kissing the lord to betray Him, in like manner her husband kisses her but is unfaithful to her, he is walking in the spirit as Judas, and walks in disobedience and is a son of disobedience and rebels against Gods Word.

When we both hear this story, you are now telling our friends Judas might be a actual ghost who has entered into the husband and made him betray his wife as this can be only the explanation for what the wife said.

I hear this story and tell our friends the wife is using figurative language, its not literally Judas making him betray her, but his own sinful lusts, in like manner to Judas, also Ghosts do not operate in our world but are held in sheol.

So I see that God continually uses figurative language and spiritual pictures to talk and explain things to us from Genesis through to Revelation, and this is how I see Peter clearly using the term Satan with Ananias.

Telling me that Satan and demons are running around making people sin, is exactly the same error and has the same effect as telling me that Judas or Hitler or Jack the ripper are actually running around making people betray, be antisemitic, and murdering people.

Also telling people its not their fault they murdered someone, its literally Jack the ripper reaching out and putting the idea in your heart, is trying to hand people free get out of jail cards. Yet conversely to warn people they are walking in the same spirit as Jack the ripper is exactly that, its instead telling people they are doing the same thing as Jack or if you like Satan did since he is the ultimate picture of sin for us to use, in the hope people will realise their own sinful nature and is helpful to put a stop to it.

Which is why I quoted Peter when he also said to Ananias "Why have you conceived this thing in your heart?" which is clearly showing me that Ananias conceived the lie in his own heart.

I love the way the Lord uses word plays, I almost think its to sort out and to expose those who are submissive to the Word of God and Peter is the perfect example to first highlight Satan being a great metaphor for sin, as Peter is a great figurative example of faith, unless you of course believe the Church is literally built upon Peter himself, as sad to say some do.
 

Haidabo

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Would you prefer that I leave her in her state of being chained by demons? is that what Jesus did to those afflicted? is that what he did to those who were sinners?
The only fire I fear is the fire of God's wrath no witch nor any practicer of magic can touch me I stand in the arms of Christ and no one can get past him.
Wow
You got witches
Putting curses on you.
And you're asking me
What I would prefer you do?
 

Gideon300

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Can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Whatever your position is, please support it with scripture which can then be scrutinized by everybody here in order to determine whether or not those scriptures truly say what anybody here might claim they say in context.

I trust that we all believe that Christians can be oppressed or harassed outwardly by demons, but that is not my question.

Again, can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Btw, I am not starting this thread in order to set off another all-too-common ruckus here in the BDF. Instead, as we all should already know, if we are honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Christians in this world who are struggling tremendously with things like depression, all sorts of illnesses or diseases, and lust (especially in a sexual sense), and I am seeking to address and determine whether or not things like this could sometimes be directly related to demons dwelling inside of them. In other words, my goal is to potentially help people to be delivered from various torments, and not to set off some sort of free-for-all here, so please present your cases civilly, respectfully, and with scriptural backing.

Thank you.
Yes, it is possible. Demons reside in the soul, not the spirit. Their focus is on the will, with the intent of controlling it. The first attack is on the mind. If a demon can control thoughts and imaginations, it's well on the way to controlling the person.

Scriptures: 2 Corinthians 10:4 & 5
Ephesians 6:10-18
 

DavidLamb

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Wow
You got witches
Putting curses on you.
And you're asking me
What I would prefer you do?
How do you get that he has witches putting curses on him? He said the exact opposite in his post: "no witch nor any practicer of magic can touch me I stand in the arms of Christ and no one can get past him. "
 

Gideon300

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I am not suggesting that they are the same temple, but if demons can co-exist with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost in the literal temple, then why would we think that they cannot co-exist in the figurative temple or in Christian's bodies? I mean, the former temple had Christ's blood brought into it in order to purchase our redemption (Heb. 9:12) or our figurative temples were purchased by that same blood, so I believe that there is a comparison to be made.

Anyhow, the only concession that I am seeking at this point in our conversation is that demons and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit can co-exist in the same place at the same time, and this truth is evidenced by what we read earlier.
As I've said elsewhere, demons reside in the soul. The Holy Spirit dwells in the human spirit. Demons did not leave people just because Jesus showed up. Jesus commanded them to depart. We have the same authority and power right now. It is a tragedy that so many Christians suffer because the truth of deliverance ministry has been allowed to wither. It should be a normal aspect of church life.
 

DavidLamb

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You know that witch
that woman you're trying
to lead to Jesus
well she's possessed
with many evil spirits
nothing's going to work
until those spirits are
cast out of her.
And She has put spells on you.
However do you know that a witch has put spells on Blain? And concerning the woman, don't you think Jesus has the power to get rid of the evil spirits?
 

Haidabo

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How do you get that he has witches putting curses on him? He said the exact opposite in his post: "no witch nor any practicer of magic can touch me I stand in the arms of Christ and no one can get past him. "
I don't care what he said.
And I don't care what you think.
 

DavidLamb

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Why do you want
to know what I think?
Because you posted on this forum, of which I am a member, claiming that another poster is under the spells of a witch. I am interested to know how you can state such a thing with such certainty. This is a discussion forum, after all.
 

Haidabo

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Because you posted on this forum, of which I am a member, claiming that another poster is under the spells of a witch. I am interested to know how you can state such a thing with such certainty. This is a discussion forum, after all.
The Holy Ghost told me.