Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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No I am not. It is written, "for when there is a change in priesthood, there was also a change in the Torah". Our sacrifices are aeolian under the new covenant, hence why the Messiah is called our Passover lamb, for under the new covenant we no longer required to sacrifice lambs, but rather, the Messiah has been sacrificed for us, in fulfillment of the requirement of the Torah. This is why Paul said, "let me no man judge you by food, drink, feast, new moon, or Shabbath, for these are all foreshadows of realities found in the Messiah".
No. The Greek word "nomos", which is translated into English as "Law", means "Torah" in Hebrew, hence "I did not come to abolish the nomos", which means, "TORAH". So, the more correct translation of these verses is:
I did not come to abolish the Torah (nomos).
For when there is a change in priesthood, there was also a change in the Torah (nomos).
I did not come to abolish the Torah (nomos).
For when there is a change in priesthood, there was also a change in the Torah (nomos).
Not that I would have found a problem with it as a buffet (as in I think I could have figured out what was current from what wasn't) but the fact that we were told it had an end as it was set up as temporary, (not in the way of ALL the things it continues to teach us, stuff we can only find within it) when it would become obsolete, and why it was necessary for that to happen to bring the new one in. God would never allow two conflicting laws to run concurrent. IMO
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There was a change in the Priesthood. There was a change in sacrifice, and the ceremonies and/or rituals. There was a change in curse, there was a change in yoke, there was a change in burden, there was a change in forgiveness, there was a change in talking to God, Shoot, less than 40 yrs later there wasn't even a temple, was there? They also had no nation for quite a spell. The moral laws, the Commandments of course, never change, but they are not "the law given to Moses", the are the Commands written by God on stone and now IN the ark. (separated in that everyone heard them not just Moses, the finger of God wrote them, they were written in stone)
The Torah is more than just the 10 commandments. it is the entire first five books of the bible. A man shall not dress as a woman is a command of the Torah, which still is binding today, and is not one of the 10 commandments. You shall not charge your brother interest is another example. And, "you shall have righteous weights and quantities" is another example, which therefore forbids paper money and fiat currency, which is not a righteous quantity, which fulfills the prophecy of the mark of the beast of Revelation.
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If a man commits adultery with the wife of another man, the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be executed to death.
Leviticus 20:10
Do you guys in your denomination put adulterers to death?
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If a man commits adultery with the wife of another man, the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be executed to death.
Leviticus 20:10
Do you guys in your denomination put adulterers to death?
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No, because we are in a time of mercy, to call sinners to repentance, which is why the Messiah said, "do not judge, and do not condemn", meaning do not condemn sinners to death as the Torah requires. However, when the Messiah returns, the death penalty of the Torah will be enforced again, which is why nearly the entire earth will be put to death by the Messiah. And during his rulership, if any man calls his brother "you fool!" will be liable to be thrown into the lake of lava, which is why it is written, "he will rule the world with a rod of iron".
Ok, and you could also say that the Lord Jesus amended the law of stoning: "The one without sin among you should be the first to throw a stone". Since no one is without sin this ordinance cannot be put into practice.
Do you guys observe the following ordinance?
Numbers 15:38 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘Throughout the generations to come you are to make tassels on the corners of your garments, with a blue cord on each tassel.
Do you guys observe the following ordinance?
Numbers 15:38 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘Throughout the generations to come you are to make tassels on the corners of your garments, with a blue cord on each tassel.
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