differences between born again christian and southern baptist

Angela53510 · Jun 13, 2013

If she doesn't attend church, but is just standing on her past history, being raised in the church, or baptized at some point, I would take that as a red flag.

One thing I should mention, is that SBC churches are under a lot of pressure to COUNT baptisms. That is how you become a member. Some years, they baptize children to keep the numbers up. Actually, it happens a lot. So although being saved is NOT about going to church or not, there is an important element of fellowship.

Really, find out whether she prays and/or reads her Bible. Lots of clues to find out if she really is trusting Christ and following him, or just claiming membership in the church of her parents or grandparents.

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

I dont believe in the once saved always saved dogma. no. I believe that once you are born again you have to endure till the end and keep doing right, and repent for every new sin you commit or you can lose out with GOD's saving grace. Cause GOD will not allow sin into HIS heaven.

notuptome · Jun 13, 2013

jinx said:

By believing that do you not by contradiction deny the sufficiency of the blood of Christ? Either all our sins are atoned for or they are not. Does grace save us or only start us on our way to salvation?
Southern Baptists have a long history of apostasy especially in their schools through which they populate their pulpits.
You actually did very good with the article excerpt but you get completely undone on the eternal security matter.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

allaboutlove · Jun 13, 2013

Sb is a denonmination born again christian isnt you can be born again no matter what your denomination it depends on your relationship with christ.

MaggieMye · Jun 13, 2013

You hate to hurt her feelings but are willing to get into a relationship in which you would be unequally yoked???
'Saved' people CAN be unequally yoked! She MIGHT be saved, but if you are a doer of the Word and walking in the Spirit, then there will be discord.
Have you prayed and ask the Lord HIS opinion of the relationship??

ME thinks that the fact that you are even asking about it on this site says that you are quite unsure about the whole thing....which IMO, means Holy Spirit IS giving you some red flags.

Just sayin'~~~
Maggie

john832 · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

OK, how about a little humor here? A born again Christian will say hi to you in the liquor store, a Southern Baptist will ignore you.

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

notuptome said:

roger, hvent I told you not to talk with me. huh??? funny how out of all the people in this thread you choose something I say to critic. I was answering a question that truckn asked me. as far as the artical, didn't I say I didn't proof read it? HUH?
leave me alone.

P.s. I DIDN'T WRITE THAT ARTICLE... follow the link! I swear you have a thing for me.... do you find me pretty? LOL maybe your wanting to go out with me or something... LOL

notuptome · Jun 13, 2013

MaggieMye said:

Perhaps he's a hopeless romantic. Love conquers all. Pastor last night commented that in pre-marriage counseling he reminds each party that they are about to marry a sinner. As such they will have conflict. The man is a sinner and the woman is a sinner they so how they deal with their conflicts will determine the quality of the marriage. Christians who are genuine will resolve conflicts in the Lord. They will want to pray together and forgive one another. They must be true to the Lord before they can be true to each other.
I married a catholic girl and we both were saved a couple years after we were married. God was and is merciful. After three children and nearly forty years we still need His mercy everyday. Not all lollipops and roses but God is good.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

notuptome · Jun 13, 2013

jinx said:

Getting a little sensitive? You introduced the eternal security aspect to the discussion not me.
I gave you credit for linking to a good article. Excuse me for being fair to you.
I've been married for nearly as long as you been alive so it just won't work for us. I know that you won't be disappointed by that bit on information. Besides we got doctrinal issues. I do have a thing for the truth, the truth of Gods word. Nobody lights a candle to place it under a basket. Let it shine and men's works will be made manifest if they are of God or not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

homwardbound · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

What is it you are worried about? What does God say in your heart to do? I knkow the Bible says to not be unequally yoked, and truly that is up to the two that are joining togather. I quarantee you all that come together are unequally yoked. You have two differant people brought up somewhat the same, and have each adhewred to bel;iefs that make each comfortable and uncomfortable, so let you each talk together and ask each other is Christ both yours common denominator. Both of you go the Bbile and read a Chapter and both of you telkl each other waht you got out of that reading. You both will have differant angles in seeing what is says, based on your past experiences mixed with what this particular chapter says.
So why not think and hear each other and thus ask God to show you truth and her to do the same. Now That would be equally yoked
But to have a wife as a servant is ludricrous, and unufair, for after it states Wifes be obedient to the husband it says nbot long after that Men love your wifes as God loves the people
So depending on how one sees God loving them is exactly how one will love his wife accordingly.
So if you see God just love you, as God does unconditionally, which is what leads a man to say no unrighteousness, then you will do well.
Now truth to all this whether you date, marry, or whatever you, trouble always follows to beset you and if you are married then it follows both of you trying to start disagreements, and fights through this, so see this verse and stand on the fact of no need to fear because
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[h=3]John 16:33[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Since God has overcome the world proof in the resurrection, and you are in God and God is in you, then guess waht no need to fear anything, listening in your heart what to do here, and not taking on more than you can chew, God is the way to know and avoid many days of trouble, at least not have as much going right instead of left.
Praying this helps as you seek God in your heart to show you the answer and if you make the wrong choice as many have, instead of being angered over it, seek to learn from it, and thus see how deep God does just love us all avoid the thief that came to steal, kill and destroy. because Christ came to give us life and be content in the middle of bad circumstances, knowing that nothing after the cross where life is at in the resurrection, can ever seperate us from God's love and thus we can learn from all things to the glory of God.

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

notuptome said:

roger, we was talking about the differences between pentecostals and SBC, the OSAS is a BIG difference. I wasn't trying to hold a conversation on the OSAS dogma, just that it was a big difference. you read too much into me and start making things up as you go along. honestly, I think you hate me. I think you love to fight with me for some sick perverted reason. I wish you would just leave me alone.
Be a man..... leave me alone.

notuptome · Jun 13, 2013

jinx said:

I'll be real clear. I am not picking on you as a person. I find the doctrine you espouse appalling. You are honest in that it is standard pentacostal fare right down the line. I can only hope that despite that doctrinal error you have a genuine saving knowledge of Christ. I have discussed these things with many pentacostals and some have proven that they were not saved. It always comes down to how they view the blood of Christ. Actually it always comes down to the blood of Christ even for the non-pentacostals.
Teach sound bible doctrine. Be true to the word of God.
Amos 3:3 Two can only walk together if they are agreed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

SparkleEyes · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

Rachel was very clear in her explanation. One can be a believer (born again) and practice Christianity as a Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist (of any variety), non-d, Presbyterian.

I would like to add that one can be any of those denominations and NOT be a born again or believer or Christian. (all 3 are different names for the same).

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

notuptome said:

I'll be real clear. I am not picking on you as a person. I find the doctrine you espouse appalling. You are honest in that it is standard pentacostal fare right down the line. I can only hope that despite that doctrinal error you have a genuine saving knowledge of Christ. I have discussed these things with many pentacostals and some have proven that they were not saved. It always comes down to how they view the blood of Christ. Actually it always comes down to the blood of Christ even for the non-pentacostals.
Teach sound bible doctrine. Be true to the word of God.
Amos 3:3 Two can only walk together if they are agreed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

thanks for telling me I'm not saved according to your "teachings"....

leave me alone!

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

I have asked you to leave me alone, not because you don't believe the same way I do, but your constant ~~and I mean CONSTANT need to critic everything I say even with the smallest of conversations.

So you don't like how I believe and find it appalling.....I DONT CARE!!!!

99% of the people in this place doesn't like what I believe yet they treat me with decency and kindness. ZONE doesn't believe anything I believe in yet she is nice to me.

I have asked you to leave me alone only to get responses such as the last one you gave me where you condemn me to hell. (way to witness BTW, you should be so proud)

you know, I have a lot of friends that don't believe the way I do, wiccans, atheist, and trinitarians, yet I don't spit in their face and call what they believe appalling to their face, because I want them to see Christ in me, I want them to see love and respect. I don't go around telling them they are going to hell, that would end our friendship and any chance I had of winning them over to GOD with LOVE. 1 cor. 13 says if I had all those things that seemed important but didn't have love, I was losing.

you might "say" you're doing this out of love but out of the heart the mouth speaks you have have not spoken love to me yet.

I'm gonna have to put you in iggy time out for a while, atleast until you forget I even exist for my own sake because I can't deal with your constant badgering of me. I know who my GOD is and HE is a merciful GOD full of love and grace, and I dont need negative people to bring me down.

you might find it funny, but I'm a soul.... a soul JESUS died for.

have fun in time out.

please forget I even existed.

good bye.

jerusalem · Jun 13, 2013

the meaning of many sacred truths have been twisted beyond recognition because of the practices of denominationalism. before you debate about doctrines ask yourself the hardest questions about your own denomination and dare to be brutaly honest with yourself. begin at the beginning with the most basic doctrine of all. the one most will agree that they agree on. salvation. the denominational rift begins there because while you agree that one must be born again you shut the door on those who would be saved by making it a contractural agreement between you and them that in addition they must become a member of your church and obey your church rules. if they refuse to join your church you refuse to baptise them making the whole thing an initiation into your private club. if this fits you then take it if not leave it alone but to those who are doing this answer for it

zone · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

southern baptists who have heard the Law & The Gospel, been brought to repentance and belief, and have been forgiven have received the Holy Spirit and been adopted as sons of God. Born from above.

just like other christians who have had a genuine conversion.

just as there are false professers and false conversions in all denoms, so are there in SBC.

zone · Jun 13, 2013

jerusalem said:

the meaning of many sacred truths have been twisted beyond recognition because of the practices of denominationalism. before you debate about doctrines ask yourself the hardest questions about your own denomination and dare to be brutaly honest with yourself. begin at the beginning with the most basic doctrine of all. the one most will agree that they agree on. salvation. the denominational rift begins there because while you agree that one must be born again you shut the door on those who would be saved by making it a contractural agreement between you and them that in addition they must become a member of your church and obey your church rules. if they refuse to join your church you refuse to baptise them making the whole thing an initiation into your private club. if this fits you then take it if not leave it alone but to those who are doing this answer for it

demoninations are unavoidable.
if one faction launches into heresy, they must be excommunicated.
they generally start their own denomination.

Stephen63 · Jun 13, 2013

trukin said:

trukin,
being Baptist doesn't have anything to do with it. What really matters is whether she is a genuinely committed Christian. She must have fruit, real evidence of her conversion. There are Christians being fooled and duped all the time by people that "say" they go to church. I've seen too many cases where Christian man met a woman in church, started dating her, only to get her pregnant because she wanted something else. Being nice is not fruit. Wearing decent clothes is no fruit at all. It's what's in the heart that counts. If you go headlong into this relationship without checking out the facts, you can destroy yourself. As a pastor I have seen this several times.

jinx · Jun 13, 2013

Stephen63 said:

what church do you pastor?

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