Disconnected from church

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I watched the Potter's House online on Wednesday and TD Jakes' daughter was speaking and she was reading from Ruth and about the field and how Ruth was an outcast among outcasts, yet she still felt like an outcast. This happens in churches very often. She went on to say that God isolates us for a purpose. He showed me on Wednesday night that He has isolated me at my church for a purpose and that, if I stay in the field, He will open the door and give me the place He has for me in that field. So, I will stay, and I will wait, and I will seek God and let Him teach me what He has for me to learn. It is hard to feel that disconnection and isolation, but if it is due to God's purpose, it gives you peace.
 
Someone once said to me that going to church is kinda like coals in a grill. When there are lots of them the fire stays hot, but one coal on its own tends to go out quickly. O.K. I get the disconnect and you are right that going to church won't save you. Accepting Jesus death on the cross for your sins and repenting of those sins is God's saving grace. But church is really a hospital for sinners - we all have the problem of sin and as I see it no one is better than another because we all have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. I'd say try another church and go for at least a month to try to connect to people your own age there and give it a real chance. Recently a girlfriend died at the church I was attending and she was the last one that I felt really close to at that church. I too felt not a great connection. I went to another church in my area and met some people in my age group and January I will change my membership to the new church. No matter if you are in or out of church never give up your connection with God. Continue your Bible study and prayer because after all it is the saving relationship with Jesus that will ultimately see us through. JesusLives
 
I watched the Potter's House online on Wednesday and TD Jakes' daughter was speaking and she was reading from Ruth and about the field and how Ruth was an outcast among outcasts, yet she still felt like an outcast. This happens in churches very often. She went on to say that God isolates us for a purpose. He showed me on Wednesday night that He has isolated me at my church for a purpose and that, if I stay in the field, He will open the door and give me the place He has for me in that field. So, I will stay, and I will wait, and I will seek God and let Him teach me what He has for me to learn. It is hard to feel that disconnection and isolation, but if it is due to God's purpose, it gives you peace.

I see this post of scripture that is below for us today all that believe:

[h=3]Matthew 10:16-20[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
 
I am a little ashamed to tell you that I have tried church hopping before because of reason #4. I jumped from church to church (to try to find the right one) only to find out that the common denominator of my church issue was that I did not involve myself in any way in the church ministries. :(
 
But what does that mean? What do you think you're supposed to do with that?

It's essentially a three-fold ministry.

1. Worth - helping women of all ages to discover the truth of their worth and value in God, helping them to overcome the lies of this world and realize that they are beautiful, worthy and valuable because they were lovingly, tenderly and carefully created by God, who takes great delight in them.
2. Love - there is a difference between loving God and being in love with God. Once a woman realizes her true beauty and value, she can focus on the God who has given her that value and fall in love with Jesus Christ. This cannot be measured or dictated or set up for a time frame, so this is the the most difficult part of the process for us to establish.
3. Purity - though my call is to radical purity, a level which very few would ever embrace, for me, the main thing I desire for others is that they abstain from sex until marriage. :) This purity is not just sexual, either. It will address the mind and physical purity and spiritual purity...the call to be set-apart...radical purity in a radically impure world.

That's it in a nutshell.
 
For it is the reprobate mind of today that keeps flesh alive in and through puberty, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so true and thanks sis thanks. you really opened up a lot for me in truth about today's promiscuity, seeing why God said to humble thyself as a child. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for your sincereity
 
So, since I am still missing church services, opting for Potters House online instead of attending my church, and since I have no intention of going to church tonight and I don't know what Sunday will bring in regards to this detachment, I am considering another church in my town. I'll let you all know...I feel like leaving, but I want to be sure that it is God's will for me to do so. I was holding on due to the mention that I would be helping with the next women's study. Today, I asked God, "If I am just staying in the hopes that I'll have ministry, isn't that wrong? It isn't serving in a ministry, but knowing You that matters. Why stay if I am only staying in the hopes that I'll be found 'useful' and given a 'place' in a church I'm not even attending regularly?"

Yup. Incidentally, here's the website of the church I'm considering: Freedom Church Santa Fe - Home
 
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I made contact with a woman I met many years ago at the college in our Public Speaking class. :) She attends the church I'm looking at so I'm going to go tonight. Keep me in you prayers. I just feel that if I stay where I am, then I will stay as I am. We'll see what God speaks to me tonight. :)
 
So, since I am still missing church services, opting for Potters House online instead of attending my church, and since I have no intention of going to church tonight and I don't know what Sunday will bring in regards to this detachment, I am considering another church in my town. I'll let you all know...I feel like leaving, but I want to be sure that it is God's will for me to do so. I was holding on due to the mention that I would be helping with the next women's study. Today, I asked God, "If I am just staying in the hopes that I'll have ministry, isn't that wrong? It isn't serving in a ministry, but knowing You that matters. Why stay if I am only staying in the hopes that I'll be found 'useful' and given a 'place' in a church I'm not even attending regularly?"

Yup. Incidentally, here's the website of the church I'm considering: Freedom Church Santa Fe - Home

Read through their Web Page........and they sound ok........I only had a couple of "oops, hmmmm" moments....

QUOTED FROM THEIR SITE:

We believe... in repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin. (Acts 2:38)
We believe... in spirit baptism, which is the infilling of the Holy Spirit evidenced by the speaking of tongues. (Acts 2:4)

END QUOTE......

While I'm fine with folks believing this way...........I don't........so, for me, this would not be the church of my choice. Now I might certainly visit it if a friend asked me to.........but it would not become my home church......

Not to influence your decision. Just speaking my thoughts........God bless.
 
Diconnected and unplugged?

"... I wondered if I was truly saved, so much so that I had this question running through my head: am I going to go to hell because I don't want to go to church?..."

Allow me to say these things, and I'm not good at quoting the Bible without having it at hand: Are you saved immediately or by a life process?

I believe this is a process, but there is some tradition and teaching saying what you said (time will tell).

I believe YOUR church is the temple of your body, same way as Jesus told others, challanging them to destroy it. How is your body temple?

My temple is crawling in some things I desired, those things I think I miss, and I can admit His Presence is not in me. In fact, I have real problems to have Him to come down or inside, since I don't know how to call His attention to my thoughts, longs or words.

The church you have mentioned and tried to avoid is the same MANY still try to avoid for decades and centuries, but this happens when we acknowledged the personal emptiness we all have, deep inside, without God and His Spirit. How many denominations are there? How many churches claim to be right while millions follow -and seek- other "living" cult? (Cult to the EGOs, by the way).

The real church is that ONE He will raise up, any day and TODAY, each day. He has made and still making His church (Just see some people
hear HIs personal voice, His dreams and warnings, while others lack His directions, because some are following rules and not His Spirit). I CAN BE COMPLETELY WRONG BY WRITING THIS, but I think I'm right. Are you as wrong as I am?

You or any could be as radical -or legalistc- as any may wish, but the church has gone to be pentecostalistic in the country where I live. You've mantion your "1st church", but todays the 1st church of many is that where you are pushed to give more money rather than helping the needy and their preaching is money, instead of love (you are right on that) and those things are easily BALANCE when you assume your own selfcontrol. Of course, if you don like people, like those I avoid in Venezuela, I will not say you are wrong, becuase I MISS not partaking in the "Lord's supper", which has turned to be a simple sunday's breakfast or that taken monthly or
weekly. Didn't He say it was more important TO LIVE?

Well! I 'd better stopping it here.



Hi there, I have just read your reply post and I think you made some very valuable points. I've underlined for reference those I wanted to address, note though that his is only MY understanding, I am sure though I am posting it for a reason, maybe someone will read this and understand though many won't

1) I believe YOUR church is the temple of your body
I believe your church is in your heart or what would be the soul of your love and this is where the spirit of Christ comes. He comes into your heart to guide you all you need is to be filled with good intention. You need to ask him there, to come into your heart. When he does come he will show you a greater love for him and his creations.

PROVERBS 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.


2) His Presence is not in me
PROVERBS 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths

Acknowledge him in ALL ways, if you have a daydream/vision/feeling anything that he is there you must Acknowledge him. A lot of people follow after the flesh or the Bible and do not acknowledge him in spirit, mostly maybe because they think it's crazy but he tells us to do this and the more you do the more vivid he will become. Don't be deterred by people speaking of demons etc. If you give yourself to Jesus Christ and your faith and heart are his, demons cannot exist here and you will know it. You will begin to feel his presence as he guides you

4) I don't know how to call His attention
Pray to him and ask him into your heart, you will not need to call his attention, he will call yours at the times He needs to

5) How many churches claim to be right while millions follow
MATTHEW 15:14 Let the alone; they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch

ROMANS 8:4 That the righteous of the law might be filfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit

When we follow after the Spirit of the Lord and Jesus Christ, we come to understand his love and the Lord and what is right we will know in our hearts

PSALM 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man

6) some peoplehear HIs personal voice, His dreams and warnings
He tells us we all can if we ask for him, the difference is how tuned you are to listening and it is not something certain people are born with because we are all able to follow the Lord, but again, we need to acknowledge the Spirit in ALL ways, and yours may differ from others. If you have asked Jesus to come, to be your saviour and you've seen, visioned, day dreamed, heard or felt in your heart the Lord Jesus Spirit, know and acknowledge that it is the Lord Jesus, tell him you hear/see/feel him and you wish him to guide you, your relationship will go from strength to strength. It is supernatural.

CORINTHIANS 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God
2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holly Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual
2;14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned


I don't go to Church and I have a wonderful relationship with God and Jesus in Spirit and it began with heart. I am not familiar with all of the literature but I follow Jesus himself in Spirit, he guides me through scripture to interpret in the way he wants me to understand. I'm not saying Don't go to Church, if it makes you feel good, by all means go, but do not feel disheartened because you don't, all you need to do is Love and believe in the Lord and Jesus Christ in Spirit and they will fill you. Follow the Lord FIRST the Lord you know in your heart and let your faith grow.
 
Hey guys...........just FYI here.......but it's not about "your" church.........it's about His Church......ok?

:)

It's not about "you," it's about Him............ok?

:)
 
I did use your post secularhermit because I liked it and it pointed out some things I think someone in here may read and understand? though I've opened myself up for much criticism - oh well lol
 
I attended Freedom Church tonight and really enjoyed it. I'll be at the women's event on Saturday and services on Sunday. Looking good so far. :)
 
Hey guys...........just FYI here.......but it's not about "your" church.........it's about His Church......ok?

:)

It's not about "you," it's about Him............ok?

:)

And the true Tabernacle is:
[h=3]Hebrews 8:1-4[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [SUP]2 [/SUP]a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

 
I did use your post secularhermit because I liked it and it pointed out some things I think someone in here may read and understand? though I've opened myself up for much criticism - oh well lol

Sister, everyone that does believe, God seals those that do believe with:
Ephesians 1:13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

So in a physical analogy, when one believes, God comes to live in them and teach them truth over error.
So it is like an Orange tree, when the orange is born in and through the branch, is it a perfect orange when first born?
Yes it is perfect, the only problem is it is not ripened yet,
So God is growing each of us in different stages of growth
Hebrews 5:10- 6-8, quite interesting to growing in Father through Son.
All in God's type of love to you
 
I attended Freedom Church tonight and really enjoyed it. I'll be at the women's event on Saturday and services on Sunday. Looking good so far. :)

This is really cool Sister, consider this God might want you to pick up the word and start from the beginning, with one purpose in mind to know Father
Just a thought, as you go to find what assembly of people you want to attend. Which one is tops?
To Know God without any desires of knowledge, any friendship of others, any motivation, any words of wisdom. Is what the heart wants above all.
And Father is available, to just Love as he has shown us through Son, all else is futile