Divorce and Adultery

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Lanolin

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#21
Just focusing on OPs question...am not sure what you trying to ask here why would God only pick one person, but He sees into our hearts..

We may not know, but God knows our motives for marrying. Or remarrying. I understand God permits remarriage when someone is a widow. And in the Bible it does say for young widows to remarry.

I think the question God may ask for those that remarry after divorce is did the remarriage happen because of adultery ie did that person see someone else while they were married and become unfaithful to them so thats why they divorced?

Another thing is God does not call us to bondage and if someone unbelieving wants to leave they can. So theres that too. Sorry if this doesnt answer your question but it might be you will need to examine your heart on that one. Also God can heal a broken heart...
 

Jackson123

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#22
1. There's never a lack of room in God's kingdom.

2. We aren't "judged" based on our view, or problems, with divorce... but on the blood of christ which justifies us before God.



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Do you mean after we judge by the blood of Jesus divorce is ok?
 

Zmouth

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#23
When a man or his wife bonds with another man or his wife, that is adultery in the sense that the time spent with the other person is time away from one’s spouse.
Are 'nooners' considered adultery since those who participate in nooners don't have any intention to break their bond with their spouse which they hold as a spiritual bond, the only bond between nooners is from the temporal attraction to the other person sexually.

So we come upon adultery, which is a form of evil. Adultery in terms of the Bible is an act which breaks up the bond between a man and his wife that God originally commanded.
Why? So how do you response to those who would say, I only do that which I see of your heavenly Father.

While it is written in Mark 10:9, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." do you think that if God joined them together that man could put it asunder?
 

Adstar

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#24
Can a woman also divorce her husband?
Yes if her husband is guilty of comitting adultry..



Also if her husband is an unbeliever and wishes to divorce her then she is free to get a divorce and marry again..
 

louis

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Another interesting factor about divorce, is the violence it causes according to the Word.

Malachi 2:16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
 

presidente

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#26
Are 'nooners' considered adultery since those who participate in nooners don't have any intention to break their bond with their spouse which they hold as a spiritual bond, the only bond between nooners is from the temporal attraction to the other person sexually.
I remember hearing the word 'nooner' used to describe a mann going home and having sex with his wife over the lunch break.

Committing adultery is committing adultery whether you plan to bond spiritually with the other adulterer or not. The Bible never describes the marital bond between terrestrial husbands as wives as spiritual, but describes it as becoming one flesh. They who are joined to Christ are one with Him in spirit.

There were libertine gnostics in the second century who may have believed that what one did with one's body, including sex, was unimportant. It is possible tgat those who went after the way of Balaam, the Nicolaitans and/or the children of that woman Jezebel promoted sexual immorality based on such a belief system. Jesus said he would 'kill her children with death' in the passage about that woman Jezebel.
 

Dino246

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Another interesting factor about divorce, is the violence it causes according to the Word.

Malachi 2:16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
There is a wide variety of wordings for this verse in different English versions. Don't make doctrine on a single one without checking the others. :)
 

GraceAndTruth

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#28
Divorce was acceptable if need be BUT.........Remarriage is NOT, to remarry when divorced husband or wife is still living is adultery.
 

Solemateleft

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In Genesis 2:24 it is written “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” This is the commandment God gave, around the time he created Adam and Eve, and He intended it to apply to all men and women.

When God issued this command, it was before Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Good and Evil. If they didn’t eat from the Tree, they wouldn’t know evil, the evil being what God deems it to be, they and their offspring wouldn’t know evil. Adam and Eve then, and men and women in successive generations would stick to the partner they were first bonded with, to the exclusion of everyone else in such manner. There would be no divorce.

Alas, they did eat from the Tree, and so successive generations have come to know evil, and in knowing evil have felt it necessary to free themselves from their partners.

And God saw there was much evil in the world, including husbands and wives parting from eachother, and in tempering the evilness, of which there would always be, he made a pact with the Hebrews he freed from bondage in Egypt and gave them the Law to live by.

But Jesus uses Genesis 2:24 as the basis for asserting that God did not intend a man and wife to divorce. The Pharisees came up to Jesus and asked him why then, does Moses, who gave us God’s law, allow for divorce when he says in Deuteronomy 24:1 - “When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house?” Jesus responds in Matthew 19:8 that it is because of man’s tendency toward evil, which he might inflict on his wife if he finds no favor in her, that a certain degree of relaxing of the original commandment was needed to prevent strife. God in Genesis tells us to be fruitful and multiply, and strife tends to inhibit such fruitfulness and multiplying, which was more important to God.

So we come upon adultery, which is a form of evil. Adultery in terms of the Bible is an act which breaks up the bond between a man and his wife that God originally commanded. When a man or his wife bonds with another man or his wife, that is adultery in the sense that the time spent with the other person is time away from one’s spouse. Since adultery can produce strife in the household, the Bible sees it as grounds for divorce so that the strife is eliminated when a man and wife leave eachother, hence Moses’ certificate.

But the Bible also says, in Luke 16:18 “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.” Well, in a sense that is neither here nor there. Moses allowed for divorce, and this being a part of the Law, Jesus said he did not come to change any part of the Law.

So what can be said about Jesus asserting, based on Genesis 2:24, that there should be no divorce? Presumably, whatever Jesus told us is what God is telling us. Put together, we have it that there should be no divorce, but it is permitted in order that there be no strife in the household.

If two people come to be judged by God, with one person having never divorced and the other one having divorced so the strife in the household can be eliminated, and there is only room for one more person in God’s Kingdom, who would God pick based on our understanding, if that really mattered? That is the question…
Given the hypothetical scenario - assuming all things are equal for your two individuals; assuming that all their other sins are identical and the only difference being that one has a divorce and the other does not...
Thus, all we know - is that one has committed one more sin than the other...
Lets extend the hypothetical to identical twin sisters, and upon their passing one sister had committed 99 sins and the other 100 - all we know is that one has committed one more sin than the other...
In neither case do we know enough to be able to wager an accurate guess as to whether they have reconciled with their sins regarding their state of salvation...

To add a bit more complexity to your hypothetical scenario, it is also plausible (not typical, but it happens) that one party in some divorces is not necessarily at fault for the marital demise... Albeit a divorce all the same - is their sin - not a lesser sin than the culprit who sabotaged the marriage...
 

louis

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There is a wide variety of wordings for this verse in different English versions. Don't make doctrine on a single one without checking the others. :)
Rather than making this about the KJV versus whatever version you use; and rather than making claims that the violence associated with putting away in the KJV means something other than what it means; we can also look at couple of recent examples where the individual who after putting away his wife for another woman, then killed the wife, and in the first case also killed his two daughters. Violence.

While these were not official on paper divorces, the individuals nonetheless had spiritually dissolved their relationships with their wives.

Malachi 2:16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
 

Dino246

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Rather than making this about the KJV versus whatever version you use; and rather than making claims that the violence associated with putting away in the KJV means something other than what it means; we can also look at couple of recent examples where the individual who after putting away his wife for another woman, then killed the wife, and in the first case also killed his two daughters. Violence.

While these were not official on paper divorces, the individuals nonetheless had spiritually dissolved their relationships with their wives.

Malachi 2:16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
I made no reference to the KJV as such; there are other threads where I address that issue.

Here's a link. Please take a look and see the wide variety of ways in which this verse is translated:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Malachi 2:16

I'm not sure the link will work because I had to edit it. Just search the verse reference and then choose the link for 'in all English translations".