Do Jews have salvation?

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JaumeJ

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All who are saved are Jew by translation. Learn this and be content with it.
 

throughfaith

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Do Jews have salvation?
Discuss.
Individually all Jews and Gentiles can be saved . Israel corporately will be saved ' nationally ' in the future . Replacement theology makes people have really bad theology . Israel is not the church . The Church is not Spiritual Israel and other such garbage.
 

Adstar

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Do Jews have salvation?
Discuss.
Only Jews who believe Jesus and trust in the Atonement He secured for them on the cross are saved..

The only Way to the Father is through the Son... No other way but the way of the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ..
 
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1) Only those in Christ are saved
2) Jews that turn to Christ will be saved / grafted into the tree
3) God is full of grace, it is possible that even after death anyone will have the opportunity to turn to Christ, including then non-Christian Jews that have love in their heart.
 

Unearthed

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1) Only those in Christ are saved
2) Jews that turn to Christ will be saved / grafted into the tree
3) God is full of grace, it is possible that even after death anyone will have the opportunity to turn to Christ, including then non-Christian Jews that have love in their heart.
Interesting. Especially #3 (bold).

In your view, will atheists have an opportunity to turn to Christ after death?
 

posthuman

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I'm not sure what you mean?
Bait for what?

I'm not getting anything out of those who reply to the thread and so I'm at a loss as to what you mean?
not getting anything? i think Magenta gave you something extraordinary. whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved ((Romans 10:13))

salvation isn't about being Jewish or not being Jewish. it's about putting your hope in Christ, Who is the LORD manifest in flesh.

but what are you asking? are you asking whether individuals who do not believe He is Messiah have salvation?
 
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Interesting. Especially #3 (bold).

In your view, will atheists have an opportunity to turn to Christ after death?
A self-described atheist may have lived a life full of the love of Christ in their heart without calling it that by name.

There was a scholar that once said that a self-titled atheist isn't really rejecting God, they are rejecting what in their heart feels like a false image of God idolised by others. In their heart they are rejecting what they feel to be idolatry.

It is possible that some that call themselves "atheist" will have the opportunity to turn to Christ after their life in the body is finished.
 

DeanM

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A self-described atheist may have lived a life full of the love of Christ in their heart without calling it that by name.

There was a scholar that once said that a self-titled atheist isn't really rejecting God, they are rejecting what in their heart feels like a false image of God idolised by others. In their heart they are rejecting what they feel to be idolatry.

It is possible that some that call themselves "atheist" will have the opportunity to turn to Christ after their life in the body is finished.
Firt ive heard of this. 🤔
 

Blik

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It is bait in the sense that it is asking Christians to judge others. It is entirely up to God to save or not save people who do not accept the Christ born in Bethlehem. But it is not bait in the sense of asking Christians to think about who God is, about God's mercy, about the relationship God wants us to have with His chosen people, about how much we can depend on God's promises.

Before God came to earth as a man, the Jews were saved in sleep, and that was through Christ. Blood was given on the altar for the salvation of man and we know that blood was the blood of Christ. The saintly Jews accepted that.

It is an eternal truth that no one has ever achieved eternal life except through the blood of Christ and that truth has been a truth ever since Adam and Eve disobeyed. If God saves the Jews today, God is doing it through what Christ did. But we are human and we do not know the mind of God. If God feels their acceptance of all He is, even that God will send a Messiah, is enough, then it is God who would do that, we are not to decide.
 

p_rehbein

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I'm not sure what you mean?
Bait for what?

I'm not getting anything out of those who reply to the thread and so I'm at a loss as to what you mean?
Those responding aren't getting anything out of you either,.........
 

JaumeJ

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A self-described atheist may have lived a life full of the love of Christ in their heart without calling it that by name.

There was a scholar that once said that a self-titled atheist isn't really rejecting God, they are rejecting what in their heart feels like a false image of God idolised by others. In their heart they are rejecting what they feel to be idolatry.

It is possible that some that call themselves "atheist" will have the opportunity to turn to Christ after their life in the body is finished.
All will be judged, an d this is as far as I am given to pronounce on the subject. Who can know God so well as to say such a thing in spirit and truth?
 

oyster67

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Do Jews have salvation?
Discuss.
The Jews that come to Jesus to have their sins covered by His blood do have salvation.

Jesus said to Nicodemus (a Jew) "You must be born again".

Romans
3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
 
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kaylagrl

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A self-described atheist may have lived a life full of the love of Christ in their heart without calling it that by name.

There was a scholar that once said that a self-titled atheist isn't really rejecting God, they are rejecting what in their heart feels like a false image of God idolised by others. In their heart they are rejecting what they feel to be idolatry.

It is possible that some that call themselves "atheist" will have the opportunity to turn to Christ after their life in the body is finished.

Yeah, don't know about the question the OP asked, what the reasoning was. But no one picked up on this comment? An atheist isn't rejecting God? That's not what the Bible says. Nor does it say one can be saved after they have died. In fact it says the opposite.