Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?
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Revelation 20-
4Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
The Defeat of Satan
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
**their number is like the sand of the sea** Many are going to die during the tribulation and the final war**
Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
**And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. The dead are judged first. Sound familiar? Tares?
Revelation 21-
The New Heaven and the New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling placea of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,b and God himself will be with them as their God.c 4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
Revelation 20-
4Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
The Defeat of Satan
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
**their number is like the sand of the sea** Many are going to die during the tribulation and the final war**
Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
**And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. The dead are judged first. Sound familiar? Tares?
Revelation 21-
The New Heaven and the New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling placea of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,b and God himself will be with them as their God.c 4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
You misunderstood or I did not make clear. Back in my old Assemblies of God days . Church members would weep over their sins . So worried they would be left behind should rapture happen. Knowing those folks ,having conversations one knew their understanding was not repentance but to be saved again. Having lived under that fear and now knowing He has my salvation. Salvation belongs to the Lord.
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With my military upbringing and subsequent career, I had to move every 2yrs or less. I've been non-denominational since childhood because of all the different churches I've attended. I've really never paid much attention to denominations because I always got more from the Bible by READING IT, and the Spirit has always led me to Christ from the beginning. "What about good Christian people.....?" They're in every denomination, even Catholicism lol...
Revelation 20-
4Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
The Defeat of Satan
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
**their number is like the sand of the sea** Many are going to die during the tribulation and the final war**
Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
**And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. The dead are judged first. Sound familiar? Tares?
Revelation 21-
The New Heaven and the New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling placea of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,b and God himself will be with them as their God.c 4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”[/QUOTE]
Well just like anything else God will not force you to do anything you do not want to do. He will not twist your arm to make you follow him.
I just wish you would address the parable of the wheat and the tares. That is teaching from Jesus own mouth. I know it goes against what you believe and you might be faced with the possibility that you have been sold a bill of goods,
4Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
The Defeat of Satan
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
**their number is like the sand of the sea** Many are going to die during the tribulation and the final war**
Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
**And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. The dead are judged first. Sound familiar? Tares?
Revelation 21-
The New Heaven and the New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling placea of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,b and God himself will be with them as their God.c 4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”[/QUOTE]
Well just like anything else God will not force you to do anything you do not want to do. He will not twist your arm to make you follow him.
I just wish you would address the parable of the wheat and the tares. That is teaching from Jesus own mouth. I know it goes against what you believe and you might be faced with the possibility that you have been sold a bill of goods,
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Then please explain
then please explain this Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
According to scripture we are saved by one thing faith not the resurrection. For salvation is not a physical issue but a spiritual one if it were a physical one then yes a perfect new body would be required one that is flawless and without sin but it is a matter of the heart not body it is a matter of faith that we are saved.
then please explain this Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
According to scripture we are saved by one thing faith not the resurrection. For salvation is not a physical issue but a spiritual one if it were a physical one then yes a perfect new body would be required one that is flawless and without sin but it is a matter of the heart not body it is a matter of faith that we are saved.
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Well just like anything else God will not force you to do anything you do not want to do. He will not twist your arm to make you follow him.
I just wish you would address the parable of the wheat and the tares. That is teaching from Jesus own mouth. I know it goes against what you believe and you might be faced with the possibility that you have been sold a bill of goods,[/QUOTE]
That parable is basically repeated in Revelation....
I just wish you would address the parable of the wheat and the tares. That is teaching from Jesus own mouth. I know it goes against what you believe and you might be faced with the possibility that you have been sold a bill of goods,[/QUOTE]
That parable is basically repeated in Revelation....
That's right. Those that attempt to justify themselves by the Law are not His.
Paul doesn't say all those Galatians he is talking about have been born again. In fact, MANY Epistles deal with these guys that "crept in unawares" to sow destructive doctrines like the need to be circumcised.
Nothing to do with born again believers losing their salvation.
Paul doesn't say all those Galatians he is talking about have been born again. In fact, MANY Epistles deal with these guys that "crept in unawares" to sow destructive doctrines like the need to be circumcised.
Nothing to do with born again believers losing their salvation.
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Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death
All sin leads to death: whether murder, adultery, or a tiny lie. It takes only one sin and a person is guilty before God: and eternal death is the result. James 2:10: If a man keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
But, thanks be to God, Jesus came as the atoning sacrifice, and we are offered forgiveness and eternal life by putting out faith in him.
All sin leads to death: whether murder, adultery, or a tiny lie. It takes only one sin and a person is guilty before God: and eternal death is the result. James 2:10: If a man keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
But, thanks be to God, Jesus came as the atoning sacrifice, and we are offered forgiveness and eternal life by putting out faith in him.