Does anyone know who started the winter celebration of Christmas?

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Blik said:
Do you read scripture? If you did it would answer your question.
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yes, I do read Scripture. so, Scripture tells us, or Jesus to be more specific - how to be an ideal person. that would be the sermon on the mount.

so, do you live up to that standard every hour of every day? if not, then you sin.
 
gb9 said:
yes, I do read Scripture. so, Scripture tells us, or Jesus to be more specific - how to be an ideal person. that would be the sermon on the mount.

so, do you live up to that standard every hour of every day? if not, then you sin.
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Lol..youre avoiding a simple question..
 
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Jewel5712 said:
..which day did God intend for the sabbeth in the Bible Saturday or Sunday..
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Just to clarify my own posts [previous post in this thread], in case it wasn't clear to the readers :) , I believe the sabbath is always Saturday, and "Firstfruit" (Lev23:10-12) is always a Sunday (and was the day of Jesus' Resurrection).


As to the day Jesus was born, I believe a reasonable case can be made (based on Scripture) that it was likely Tishri 15 (not Tishri 8, which another poster suggested), that is, the first day of Tabernacles (Lev23:34) [and then circumcised the 8th day; "the eighth day" mentioned in Lev23:36], ascertained by viewing the "courses" of the priests (during those days [NT passage]) and that John the Baptist was born 6 months earlier. Also the wording in John 1:14, "and the Word was made flesh, and tabernacled among us"... and I too believe that the purpose of the Zech14 (future) celebration of Tabernacles is due to this (His BD party, so to speak, lol).

I too believe we are free to celebrate it (pr not) at any time :D
 
TheDivineWatermark said:
Just to clarify my own posts [previous post in this thread], in case it wasn't clear to the readers :) , I believe the sabbath is always Saturday, and "Firstfruit" (Lev23:10-12) is always a Sunday (and was the day of Jesus' Resurrection).


As to the day Jesus was born, I believe a reasonable case can be made (based on Scripture) that it was likely Tishri 15 (not Tishri 8, which another poster suggested), that is, the first day of Tabernacles (Lev23:34) [and then circumcised the 8th day; "the eighth day" mentioned in Lev23:36], ascertained by viewing the "courses" of the priests (during those days [NT passage]) and that John the Baptist was born 6 months earlier. Also the wording in John 1:14, "and the Word was made flesh, and tabernacled among us"... and I too believe that the purpose of the Zech14 (future) celebration of Tabernacles is due to this (His BD party, so to speak, lol).

I too believe we are free to celebrate it (pr not) at any time :D
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Lol..if yo took my partial post replying to another user i wasnt really asking a question..i was making a point.. Thats why taking partial posts can be detremental ;)
 
Jewel5712 said:
Lol..if yo took my partial post replying to another user i wasnt really asking a question..i was making a point.. Thats why taking partial posts can be detremental ;)
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I wasn't answering any question I perceived you to be posing, I was clarifying my previous posts in case anyone reading may have misunderstood my post to be saying that the sabbath CHANGED to Sunday (after His resurrection), which I don't believe. I was just clarifying. :) (sure, part of your post prompted me to think of it! so that's good!)

Then, I should have drawn I line under that (as I sometimes do) to start the next section addressing the subject of the thread (not anything in your post). My apologies if it seemed I was "answering" YOU (and a question you WEREN'T ASKING. lol). I wasn't.

Thanks. :)
 
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TheDivineWatermark said:
I wasn't answering any question I perceived you to be posing, I was clarifying my previous posts in case anyone reading may have misunderstood my post to be saying that the sabbath CHANGED to Sunday (after His resurrection), which I don't believe. I was just clarifying. :)

Then, I should have drawn I line under that (as I sometimes do) to start the next section addressing the subject of the thread (not anything in your post). My apologies if it seemed I was "answering" YOU (and a question you WEREN'T ASKING. lol). I wasn't.

Thanks. :)
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Lol..no problem..lol
 
Judaizers were those who attempted to bring people back to law only, without mercy, justice and faith.

In the Word, they were not referring to any structured denomination yet, rather to the remaining of the tribe of JUdah.
 
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