Does God hate me?

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Kojikun

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Psalms says God hates lovers of violence with a passion. I do not like real violence (even boxing and sports are to much) however I do enjoy a good fighting video game (as long as theres no death) and slaying monsters on a jrpg. Does God hate me for that? If he does it would make alot of sense on why I feel like this lifes a waste of time and I'm destined to burn for all Eternity
 

Kojikun

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Well that I am calmed down I very much regret starting this thread because I more than likely will get a barrage of opinions making me ask more questions and confusing me more. Since theres no delete function I ask that you simply ignore this thread.
 
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He's talking about people that commit violence (dangerous criminals).
 

cinder

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If enjoying violent movies, TV shows, or beating up the bad guys or monsters in a video game condemns people to hell, heaven is going to be empty as a ghost town.
 

Rosemaryx

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Philippians 4:8-9
8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think on these things. 9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me, put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.
 

17Bees

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Psalms says God hates lovers of violence with a passion. I do not like real violence (even boxing and sports are to much) however I do enjoy a good fighting video game (as long as theres no death) and slaying monsters on a jrpg. Does God hate me for that? If he does it would make alot of sense on why I feel like this lifes a waste of time and I'm destined to burn for all Eternity
Are you really not going to use your head here? I'm sorry if I sound harsh but this is a total misunderstanding of scripture as a whole. This current worldly view of violence is astounding to me. We think there should be no discipline, that we can talk out our issues, that we must be passive in our resistance to evil or law breaking, that we must include evil things in our lives and in our teachings even though they go against the Almighty God of Heaven and Earth? We've got to be inclusive above all things?

MOSES WAS A MURDERER, Kojikun. He saw an Egyptian beating up a couple of Hewbrews and he killed the guy. Not only that, he tried to cover up the body in sand. And all the world says he's a murderer! He's a murderer. Isn't he the one who came down with all the commandments? But you don't see what became of it. There's a Hebrew word 'Yatsa" meaning breaking out, or pull away or escape. Moving forward and leaving behind your former place. And this is what Moses did. He broke away from his stupor of his half Egyptian/half Hewbrew place and surrendered to his destiny with the God of Israel. This is the death you and I experience when we have faith to be told "whatever is true, whatever is honortable, and pure and lovely (thank you RosemaryX). And he led his people through the wilderness to their promised land. Think of David. The man was vicious! And there's stories throughout how we cannot succomb to evil but be violent in our efforts to obey our God.

It is our destiny! Especially now. Do you think video games is something to worry about? Do you think even now with law breaking and destruction and economic ruin is something to worry about? I think there will be a time for our Yatsa. We will break out and our violence and our love will work hand in hand.
 

Rosemaryx

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We must be careful what we watch , and what we listen to , because these things go into our mind and have an affect on us...
If I was to watch horror , my thoughts would become dim , then the more I watched , my thoughts would become dark , and while I sleep , my sleep would become disturbed...

We must guard our heart , mind at all times

Proverbs 4:23 New International Version (NIV)
23 Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
 

seoulsearch

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Psalms says God hates lovers of violence with a passion. I do not like real violence (even boxing and sports are to much) however I do enjoy a good fighting video game (as long as theres no death) and slaying monsters on a jrpg. Does God hate me for that? If he does it would make alot of sense on why I feel like this lifes a waste of time and I'm destined to burn for all Eternity
Hi Koji,

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you've written several times before that you struggle with Scrupulosity, and that it makes it very hard for you to discern religious principles, even making it difficult for you to read the Bible?

If possible, I would still recommend trying to read your Bible on a regular basis. It really helps you to be able to discern what God is saying/convicting you of versus what might be incorrect, overzealous self-condemnation.

Many years ago I was part of a church in which some of the members were becoming more and more radical and saw demons behind nearly everything. As someone else put it, "These people are giving more testimony to what the demons are supposedly doing than to what Jesus has already done!"

I still go through stages in my life where I am sometimes bitterly angry and depressed, mostly about being alive. I used to watch all kinds of violent movies (Silence of the Lambs, the original Robocop, Rambo, etc.) because I thought that the more violence I exposed myself to, the more numb I would be, and that eventually, I could just numb myself into not feeling anything.

Now obviously, in this case, my motivations for seeking out violent entertainment were wrong, so sometimes it's kind of obvious. But I also struggled with church members who were trying to strongly influence others to be like they were, and so, believing God was telling me to get rid of anything in my life that had any kind of violence in it, I threw away pretty much every book and movie that I owned at that time.

The thing that started to get me to question this was just how nit picky I was becoming. I didn't own most of the violent movies I had seen -- rather, I was fighting with myself over throwing out things like Disney movies. Beauty and the Beast? Gaston falls off a cliff = violence, therefore, gotta get rid of that one. Hmm. How about The Incredibles? Seems pretty innocent, but wait... There's this one scene where there's a bad guy that crashes into the side of something... violence. Gotta get rid of this one, too.

Then one day, I was doing some Bible reading, and it happened to be the story about the king who was so obese that when he was murdered (by the sword -- not exactly a very tame death), the Bible itself says that the sword was completely enclosed within his body. (Eglon - Judges 3:12-30.)

To me, this was a wake-up call -- The. Bible. is. full. of. violence!!! How about the story where a man and a woman are caught in sin, and a man runs a spear through both their bodies at the same time, and God sees it as righteousness? (Numbers 25:8.)

I suddenly realized that if I were to avoid each and every inkling of violence in this lifetime, it would also mean that I would have to stop reading the Bible! I think God was helping me realize that this was a major red flag that something wasn't right and I was going off the deep end in my fanaticism.

Now, I'm certainly not condoning violence (or Disney for that matter, as I know many Christians disapprove of Disney for other reasons,) but it taught me that we can go so far into the realm of "conviction" that we are truly driving ourselves crazy. These days, I limit my exposure to violence in entertainment, but I did wind up repurchasing a copy of The Incredibles. :) (Others might feel convicted differently, which is perfectly understandable too -- go with what God is leading you to do, and you'll know more of what He wants you to do with regular Bible reading.)

I've read many of your threads, Koji, and know that you ask the same questions over and over because you seem to feel constantly self-condemned. I am praying and truly hoping that God will give you clarity and discernment that will bring these obsessive thoughts to a peaceful end.

Blessings to you! Keep us posted on how you're doing. :)
 

SoulWeaver

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God doesn't hate you for playing video games with slaying monsters. That's so innocuous, even a little child wouldn't see anything bad about it. God doesn't hate you, period.
You are just being very rough on yourself. Depression can make one think like that, to seek faults within ourselves.
Maybe it will help you, something I was told by the Spirit once "stop searching yourself for sin - it's My job!"
It's His glory. He will search you, guide you, scold you when deserved, and build you up. He will reform you into the person He wants you to be. God is a very capable parent. You are not alone to struggle with the whole world on your shoulders... Rest in Jesus.

Philippians 1:6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
 

Kojikun

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We must be careful what we watch , and what we listen to , because these things go into our mind and have an affect on us...
If I was to watch horror , my thoughts would become dim , then the more I watched , my thoughts would become dark , and while I sleep , my sleep would become disturbed...

We must guard our heart , mind at all times

Proverbs 4:23 New International Version (NIV)
23 Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
Yes I'm very careful with what I watch. I've stopped watching gorey movies. I enjoy horror simply because I enjoy the attempt at a scare as long as it's not gorey or demonic (if that makes sense) I'm also not cool with terms like demon. Theres a few card games I quite due to that content. I know what I cant handle but I think my bad ocd and the fact that I think too much is an issue. I also have bad anxiety and if I dont have a problem my brain will make one up. It's almost 24/7 sometimes my brain will not shut up tbh.
 

Rosemaryx

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Yes I'm very careful with what I watch. I've stopped watching gorey movies. I enjoy horror simply because I enjoy the attempt at a scare as long as it's not gorey or demonic (if that makes sense) I'm also not cool with terms like demon. Theres a few card games I quite due to that content. I know what I cant handle but I think my bad ocd and the fact that I think too much is an issue. I also have bad anxiety and if I dont have a problem my brain will make one up. It's almost 24/7 sometimes my brain will not shut up tbh.
I understand to a certain degree...
I have suffered intrusive thoughts 24/7 and it drove me mad , it is like having OCD in my thoughts rather than actions , but God through His word has really calmed them down...

Have you tried weaning yourself away from all things that promote violence per say , because remember the bible says a little leven spreads through the whole lump...

I alos could not read the bible , for a little while anyway , I was in fear of a lot of things , and it triggered my thoughts sky high , but then I came to realise that this fear was not coming from God , but from Satan , keeping me from God as I was seeking help , I am now more grounded , and have more of His word to fall back on when the intrusive thoughts pop up...
...xox...
 

Kojikun

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I understand to a certain degree...
I have suffered intrusive thoughts 24/7 and it drove me mad , it is like having OCD in my thoughts rather than actions , but God through His word has really calmed them down...

Have you tried weaning yourself away from all things that promote violence per say , because remember the bible says a little leven spreads through the whole lump...

I alos could not read the bible , for a little while anyway , I was in fear of a lot of things , and it triggered my thoughts sky high , but then I came to realise that this fear was not coming from God , but from Satan , keeping me from God as I was seeking help , I am now more grounded , and have more of His word to fall back on when the intrusive thoughts pop up...
...xox...
Yes a break from my usual hobbies sounds like a great idea. I'm currently looking for work too. I'm going to be filling out applications soon.
 

Prycejosh1987

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Psalms says God hates lovers of violence with a passion. I do not like real violence (even boxing and sports are to much) however I do enjoy a good fighting video game (as long as theres no death) and slaying monsters on a jrpg. Does God hate me for that? If he does it would make alot of sense on why I feel like this lifes a waste of time and I'm destined to burn for all Eternity
Thats not true, i enjoy fighting games myself and dragonballz, there is swearing and violence in it. I like GTA and dead or alive. I mostly love sonic and mario games and sometimes zelda. It depends on the console and game in general. Its not a sin to like certain games, as long you dont go and act on what you play and see. Its all Okay.