Does Jesus and Paul contradict each other?

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Nufan said:
It seems Jesus is teaching a works based faith.
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No after we are reborn we have to work for HIM.

JESUS said in,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

So I don't care what anyone says, we CANNOT enter unless we are born of water and of Spirit.

Born of water is when we go into a watery grave in JESUS name dieing with HIM and come out new.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Being born of the spirit is when JESUS comes in side of us.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Who was doing the work in these scriptures??

Matthew 3:13-16
King James Version
13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
 
Jordon said:
sorry i didn't mean offend, I didn't know you was a Catholic or are one,

I realise it not kids fault for praying to statues especially when there made to look like angels. The issue I have is separating kids schools into denominations in the first place. I think it's a Joke asking for trouble

Anyhow , it was only like banter whilst playing soccer.

When the catholic kids would pretend to dive and be injured I would say stop acting like Mary .

Sorry about that m.

I never explain things well sometimes.
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i'm quite decidedly not catholic.
i just think it's a bad idea to perpetuate an environment where bashing them is acceptable.

our Sword is to attack ideas, not people.
 
posthuman said:
i'm quite decidedly not catholic.
i just think it's a bad idea to perpetuate an environment where bashing them is acceptable.

our Sword is to attack ideas, not people.
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I agree.

But what of those who attack you permanently.

What should the lord do.

Well he can do many things.

Can he make you reject them.

And what when you see kids worshipping idols

What environment should he create to make them see the light.
 
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