in the western , non-hebrew, world it is virtually unanswerable --- the meanings of so many words, the ideas, the concepts, are all so different. no one knows, unless the son reveals, or the father (i'm not sure why - haven't pursued it per se, sometimes it is written the father reveals, other times it is written the son)....
Does the bible teach that Jesus is God?
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yeh that answer is like the people like back in post # 77
they could not explain it also.
what part of , decieves the whole world, people do not under stand
If you want to know the answer to this question you are first going to have to be willing to listen. You do not seem to be willing to do this. Also, you are going to have to spend some time re-establishing some of these fundamental concepts. I cannot teach you trigonometry if you do not first know what a number is.
and yet....
[h=1] Jonah 4:11English Standard Version (ESV)[/h] [SUP]11 [/SUP]And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?”
[h=4]Cross references:[/h]
English Standard Version (ESV) The Holy Bible, English Standard Version Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers.
[h=1] Jonah 4:11English Standard Version (ESV)[/h] [SUP]11 [/SUP]And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?”
[h=4]Cross references:[/h]
English Standard Version (ESV) The Holy Bible, English Standard Version Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers.
Man was in the beginning created in the 'image' of GOD, in the 'fullness' and 'likeness' of GOD, the 'invisible' GOD in the 'visible' physical man to subdue over the earth and multiply with HIS blessing, as JESUS CHRIST later became the 'perfect example' of 'every word that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD', for all others who 'believe' in HIM and HIS words/teachings of the New Covenant, receive Salvation for sins, falling short of HIS Glory that HE made us for.
And not HE made us all to be on our own and when we decided on our own, from Adam through Eve and 'initially Eve through satan and hence frith where have 'sprout out' since then divisions and wars among themselves and all 'abomination' against the 'Creator', finding newer and newer ways, being 'beguiled' by satan, to live freely and wildly apart from the 'Creator' and HIS 'Will', continuing in HIS 'image' and 'AGAPE' and 'continuing' in HIS 'image' and 'knowledge'.
The 'image' of GOD was still in them even on their own and they had also a 'shadow' of GOD's Government system of Heaven and earth, here on earth. In many nations men were placed in authority over all the people, implementing justice system and religious system and trade system and also relationship system, in order to live in peace. They were actually 'gods' in HIS 'image' bring to 'subdue' and 'multiply' over and in their individual nations.
The Israelite in the 'image' of GOD had the 'oracle' of GOD and their King and officials according to them were 'gods' over HIS nation, to 'subdue' implementing GOD's 'order' and 'justice' over the people and 'multiply'.
On the other hand, the pagans in the 'image' of GOD, have their oracle of men and fallen spirits and their kings and officials according to them as 'gods' over their nations, to 'subdue', implementing their own structural 'order' and 'justice' over their people and 'multiply'.
GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
What do you think it means for man to be created in the image of God? What do you think image of God defines?
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By promotion.
†. Dan 7:13-14 . . In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was
one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the
Ancient of Days and was escorted into His presence. He was given authority,
glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language
worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass
away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
†. Phil 2:8-11 . . And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled
himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross. Therefore
God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above
every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven
and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus
Christ is supreme, to the glory of God the Father.
"exalted him" speaks of promotion.
"the highest place" is the throne of God.
"the name that is above every name" is Yhvh.
In other words: God gave Jesus Christ the right to sit shoulder-to-shoulder
with God, and the right to use God's name to identify himself; all because
of his extraordinary service to God and man.
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By promotion.
†. Dan 7:13-14 . . In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was
one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the
Ancient of Days and was escorted into His presence. He was given authority,
glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language
worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass
away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
†. Phil 2:8-11 . . And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled
himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross. Therefore
God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above
every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven
and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus
Christ is supreme, to the glory of God the Father.
"exalted him" speaks of promotion.
"the highest place" is the throne of God.
"the name that is above every name" is Yhvh.
In other words: God gave Jesus Christ the right to sit shoulder-to-shoulder
with God, and the right to use God's name to identify himself; all because
of his extraordinary service to God and man.
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Good luck with pleading his return as an excuse to be ignorant while he's gone.
†. 1Cor 15:34 . . Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not
have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
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Good luck with pleading his return as an excuse to be ignorant while he's gone.
†. 1Cor 15:34 . . Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not
have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
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my point is , the world and man has tried to explain the trinity
since cathloc made it mandatory,for the whole kingdom of (rome)
all they come up with is it is a mystery, and you can not understand it, or go insane trying.
God is not a mystery, and the bible says he shows it to his saints now who obey.
I do not need you to tell me how it works, Gods very power, his spirit showed it to me,
and i have been voicing it, to bad no one has yet to still answer this question or lisened.
see i was once in this world the devil has decieved, but have come out of it.
my advice is to forget what you been taught, become like children,and relearn
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we see in the bible the church Christ started,
we see all the warnings about the church going corupt from within.
there is about a 100 years after this, that details is very cloudy
history picks it up,and the church is not anything like it was before.
we see all the warnings about the church going corupt from within.
there is about a 100 years after this, that details is very cloudy
history picks it up,and the church is not anything like it was before.
'Image' of GOD only 'defines' in CHRIST 'today' and 'forever', who is of the New Covenant of GOD made with us, written in the HOLY BIBLE, for those who 'abide' in them 'as it is written', 'bear' much fruits.
Apart from these that has been 'established' and 'written', anyone can do 'something', but they are doing 'nothing' at all for CHRIST.
They are only 'ministering' in the 'gifts' of the HOLY SPIRIT and 'reaping' nothing to receive 'the Crown', because they are 'still' in 'carnal/flesh', it's 'passions' and 'desires'.
And the HOLY SPIRIT is 'warring' against them, and stop us from doing what we want to do.
They will be 'rejected' in the 'end'.
In Gen 1 when God said "let us make man in our image," what characterized that image. In other words what made Adam in the image of God. What is the image of God?
I was and still willing to hear youre thought,
on where the spirits throne in the world to come,
we know where God is and Christ is, where is the spirits throne?
but not one sentence or verse even given on subject question yet,
i am curious to hear,
I do not think you are. You are looking for a quick one liner answer rather than devoting some time learning to see the much larger picture of how scripture represents the nature of God. And I do not want to hear this nonsense about, "The Holy Spirit told me this," because the Holy Spirit is NOT going to contradict what he has already given to in scripture.
Yes he is.....
The Father judgeth no man, but has committed ALL judgment unto the SON....
I saw the dead stand before GOD and the books were opened.....and they were judged out of those things written in the books....
Jesus created all things and he is the express ICON of the invisible Father......!
The Father judgeth no man, but has committed ALL judgment unto the SON....
I saw the dead stand before GOD and the books were opened.....and they were judged out of those things written in the books....
Jesus created all things and he is the express ICON of the invisible Father......!
Jesus plainly teaches we are gods. Is it not written we are children of God, if you are a child of God, how are you not God?
Know you not that the spirit that is within you, is immortal, it can not die, or be killed?
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this is not true, you are mortal and can die,
same line given to eve.
but you can be born into his family at Christs return
Know you not that the spirit that is within you, is immortal, it can not die, or be killed?
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this is not true, you are mortal and can die,
same line given to eve.
but you can be born into his family at Christs return
ok show me where it contradicts scripture i posted,
or the other points i made, and how cathloc doctrine has not changed it.
prove me wrong, not for my sake but yours