Hi I'm a bit stuck on this wording I heard recently at a seminar. The person said " Satan foreknows Gods plan." . I don't agree. Am I right?
Does the enemy foreknow Gods plans?
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mule
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Scripture pretty much lays out Gods plan. I don't think He is keeping it a secret from anyone.
Who is the " enemy " by the way? I an assuming you mean that fallen angel who has come to kill steal and destroy.
I think he knows and he keeps trying to beat the system, like any other liar and cheat. I think he is vain enough to actually believe he can challenge God and win -- he is sure he has learned his mistake from the first time he tried.
Who is the " enemy " by the way? I an assuming you mean that fallen angel who has come to kill steal and destroy.
I think he knows and he keeps trying to beat the system, like any other liar and cheat. I think he is vain enough to actually believe he can challenge God and win -- he is sure he has learned his mistake from the first time he tried.
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metanoia
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No creature has foreknowledge of any event unless God grants it to him, because only God sees past, present, and future all at once. If Satan knows anything of God's plans, it's because he has paid careful attention and is good at guessing. He is very smart.
Only in the sense that I say I can predict what my wife is going to do when she gets home. He doesn't have special knowledge of the future but he is smart enough to figure out and make an educated guess.
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nukreation
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God gave Adam dominion over the world but he handed that dominion to the serpent. God told the serpent that it would strike man's heal but man would stomp on his head. Gods word is true and all that He says comes to pass. The serpent knows that his time is limited but the serpent isn't all knowing like God. I think it would have come as a shock to him when he realised that Jesus death had paid the price for our sin, so that every person who believes in Him, were no longer under the curse of sin, but once again has dominion over the world and indeed over the enemy. If the enemy knew all Gods plans then surely he wouldn't have let Jesus be crucified.
Did Satan know what the death of Christ on the cross actually meant, if so, do you think Satan would have fight harder to prevent it? Satan does know his is crushed, that he does know. However, to say how much Satan knows and doesn't know is just like I know what you know and don't know. We know this, from the bible, our God is sovereign and nothing can thwart His plans.
satan may know as much as we do which is contained in the bible satan is diffently not all knowing like God God let's satan know what he know just as we know what the Lord wants us to know about these things of God
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I believe God purposely wrote Revelations to hide the meanings behind the Words in it til the day of the seventh angel. Rev 10
1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
- it says when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he has declared to his servants the prophets. It is the seventh angel which reveals what God hid for many years, even from Satan. It is all in there, in Revelations, but Satan was never aware of certain things because God had to protect His Word throughout the ages.
1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
- it says when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he has declared to his servants the prophets. It is the seventh angel which reveals what God hid for many years, even from Satan. It is all in there, in Revelations, but Satan was never aware of certain things because God had to protect His Word throughout the ages.
That is explained well enough for me in Revelation. The enemy is drunk on the blood of the prophets and the saints. He is so deluded, whether he foreknows or not, he thinks he will win. He has already lost, now it is up to those who believe Yeshua, Jesus, to get home, and we get home by following Him, amen.
The enemy knows his time is short.
He knows he is going to lose.
But he's too far in to stop because he refuses repentance.
Contributing to this is the fact, as previously stated, he is drunk.
I believe thinks he knows the plan, but really has no clue.
And he only thinks that he can rip children from the hand of Y'Shua, who holds all flesh and loses nothing.
He knows he is going to lose.
But he's too far in to stop because he refuses repentance.
Contributing to this is the fact, as previously stated, he is drunk.
I believe thinks he knows the plan, but really has no clue.
And he only thinks that he can rip children from the hand of Y'Shua, who holds all flesh and loses nothing.
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Elfleda
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I don't think that devil does have full knowledge of God's plan, such as times and dates etc. In my opinion he knows about as much as the most well versed believer but might have a better understanding giiven that he's a spiritual entity. Given the limitations of human language and translations possibly he knows quite a bit more than any human can ever learn.