Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[OIC1965]

Someone said I believed I was in Christ before the foundation of the world What Calvinist would say that?

 

[throughfaith]

Just to be clear. I am not a Calvinist. A true Calvinist would not agree with most of my posts. I have gotten into many disagreements with Calvinists.

What is the disagreement you have? or that they have with you?

 

[throughfaith]

Someone said I believed I was in Christ before the foundation of the world What Calvinist would say that?

most .

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What is the disagreement you have? or that they have with you?

If you can’t tell that by listening to what he says. That’s pretty sad

 

[OIC1965]

most .

You’re mistaken.

 

[throughfaith]

So faith is a gift. I’m happy we agree.

If your referring to Eph 2 . Salvation is the free gift . Even Calvin conceded on that point.

 

[OIC1965]

What is the disagreement you have? or that they have with you?

Pretty much on everything in Tulip except eternal security.

 

[throughfaith]

You’re mistaken.

With distinction. But in some sense they would say this .

 

[throughfaith]

Pretty much on everything in Tulip except eternal security.

So you don't believe in any points of TULIP ?

 

[OIC1965]

If your referring to Eph 2 . Salvation is the free gift . Even Calvin conceded on that point.

more is known about Greek language than they knew in Calvins day. For example, the Granville sharpe rule and other things.

 

[OIC1965]

With distinction. But in some sense they would say this .

Whatever you say, Hoss.

 

[OIC1965]

So you don't believe in any points of TULIP ?

I believe the elect cannot be lost.

 

[throughfaith]

more is known about Greek language than they knew in Calvins day. For example, the Granville sharpe rule and other things.

How about just as it reads as translated ? 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Its clear the ' it ' is the whole .

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I believe the elect cannot be lost.

A point to make he believes this too. If it makes you a Calvinist it makes him one also

 

[throughfaith]

I believe the elect cannot be lost.

Elect to do what ?

 

[OIC1965]

How about just as it reads as translated ? 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Its clear the ' it ' is the whole .

You are absolutely right.

 

[throughfaith]

I believe the elect cannot be lost.

I believe a person in Christ cannot be lost .

 

[OIC1965]

Elect to do what ?

Elect to be holy and blameless before God in love to begin with.

 

[OIC1965]

I believe a person in Christ cannot be lost .

And we were chosen in Christ, so we’re on the same page.

 

[OIC1965]

How about just as it reads as translated ? 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Its clear the ' it ' is the whole .

It is referring to the whole thing and so is the word “that”. That not of yourselves.

So the whole thing is not of ourselves, the whole thing is a gift of God.