Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.
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What I actually do notice is that oneness people, such as yourself, add to salvation and state that unless you are baptized in the name of Jesus alone and speak in tongues you are not really saved.
Mercifully, we each can study scripture and come to understand that your salvation + + ideas are not biblical.
That is true but nowhere in scripture is it indicated that you are not saved if you don't speak in tongues.
Is tongues the only spiritual gift you make a fuss about or do you think we all should have every gift that Paul lists?
If you think a one off occurence is the precedent, then perhaps lean out a building and convert 2000 to the gospel. I'm not making a joke here, but your premise is that flimsy. Like saying if Philip was carried away by the Holy Spirit, then we should be able to do that to.
Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? I Cor. 12:30
Do you know more than the author of a huge chunk of the New Testament?
No need to be rude. I thought you might just want to consider what the scriptures convey.
I can see why you feel as you do. It always amazes me how some people feel it necessary to resort to personal attacks when others disagree with them.
Ecclesiasticus 25:24 Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.
1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Oh it doesn’t bother me , it’s hard to discuss the Bible with someone who won’t discuss what the Bible actually says was more the issue brother . I’m too old to waste my time or someone else’s on interaction like that . It’s the hyper grace blindfold doctrine that bugs me …..look what it does to folks
insults or personal words are irrelevant at this point in my life I’ve already heard it all and realized Jesus judgement and opinion of me is all that matters in the end
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
God bless and keep you brother
this doesn't apply to me as I'm not offending God
Again, nothing I'm doing is self-seeking or rejecting the truth.
The bible is the word of God. Those who profess Christ is the Messiah and believe in him are saved and will not perish (or suffer wrath etc)
He is legion...some agreed, some didn't.I'm a bit confused by your post. I thought we were on the same page.
well its possible but because there are so many differing dialogs going on, im having a hard time keeping up with who said what,. I am a protestant Christian, salvation by faith alone, "works" are simply fruits after the fact and not some blend of OT law and works based salvation. The mosaic law is not binding on Christians. The sabbath isn't mandated on Christians because we have our rest in Christ, whenever.
If you agree with this we are on the same page
And yes i see my mistake... i thought you were trying to accuse me of something.... mia culpa.
You need to understand the rewards and punishment system for those who are saved. The saved person when they do some great thing or are very fervent in their walk receive crowns... when they sin the lose crowns. If they don't forgive someone it doesn't negate salvation it potentially removes crowns.
I have no idea what these crowns are, but nonetheless...
Seriously, you are frustrated because I won't accept YOUR interpretation. This is why throwing scripture at each other is meaningless. Ask a 10-yr old what love is and ask a 70-yr old and they are going to have very different definitions. This is the case between you and me. I can only suggest that you continue in your research of the truth without presuppositions. Then you may get to the point of understanding where you can have a meaningful debate with me (or anyone) over whatever topic.
It's like whomever was tossing out that baptism is required for salvation. They quoted 4 or 5 verses that do appear to say this. However, there are more that 150 versus in the New Testament clearly say faith alone is the only requirement. In the versus that person quoted assumed a meaning not consistent with the rest of scripture. This isn't because I have a different view, it's because the biblical text overwhelmingly disagrees. So, there must be some reason the spirit allowed it to be written this way. And if fact there is. But rather than take the obvious position which is 150 pieces of evidence are way better than just 5 which appear to disagree, they assume the one with less evidence. Here is a verse showing that the baptism is spiritual and happens at the point of salvation by faith. But no one ever realizes this.
Colossians 2:11–12 (ESV)
11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
here is a link to a good article on this subject for those interested (https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/is-baptism-necessary-for-salvation)
Here is the crux of the issue, you are too immature to have the conversation. Understanding the meaning of the biblical text and its teaching are not a waste of time. I'm not rejecting the lord's word I'm rejecting your interpretation because I know the argument, both sides of it, better than you do. We are told to be ready to defend our faith and to have answers. I didn't just flip open a bible and do a keyword search to disprove you. I have been here before.
1. Receiving the Holy Ghost into one's body is essential for salvation. (Rom. 8:9) And all accounts that record specific details show tongues was the evidence that accompanied the experience.
2. There is a distinction in tongues. Scripture reveals 100% exhibit the sign of tongues upon receiving the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:4, 10:43-48, 19:1-7 and 8:12-18 alludes to it) Whereas, not all will be used to present God's message in an unknown tongue for the edification of members of a congregation. The message is then interpreted via the Spiritual Gift of Interpretation. Both experiences are miraculous in nature.