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That's the fault of parents not the KJV. Don't blame the Bible, blame Spongebob. 
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So the parents should teach their kids a dead language?
Dead language? I use it daily. Here's an example of how easy the KJV wording is compared to the NASB:
Matthew 9:17 - NASB / wineskins - KJV / bottles
Matthew 1:11 - NASB / deportation - KJV / carried away
Luke 6:22 - NASB / ostracize - KJV / separate you from their company
1 Thes. 2:18 - NASB / thwarted - KJV / hindered
1 Tim. 3:3 - NASB / pugnacious - KJV / striker
1 Tim. 3:8 - NASB / sordid - KJV / filthy
1 Tim. 6:16 - NASB / a pang - KJV / sorrows
Hebrews 7:2 - NASB / apportioned - KJV / gave
Hebrews 12:1 - NASB / encumbrance - KJV / weight
Revelation 6:8 - NASB / ashen - KJV / pale
Revelation 18:1 - NASB / illumined - KJV / lightened
Matthew 9:17 - NASB / wineskins - KJV / bottles
Matthew 1:11 - NASB / deportation - KJV / carried away
Luke 6:22 - NASB / ostracize - KJV / separate you from their company
1 Thes. 2:18 - NASB / thwarted - KJV / hindered
1 Tim. 3:3 - NASB / pugnacious - KJV / striker
1 Tim. 3:8 - NASB / sordid - KJV / filthy
1 Tim. 6:16 - NASB / a pang - KJV / sorrows
Hebrews 7:2 - NASB / apportioned - KJV / gave
Hebrews 12:1 - NASB / encumbrance - KJV / weight
Revelation 6:8 - NASB / ashen - KJV / pale
Revelation 18:1 - NASB / illumined - KJV / lightened
It's not dumbing things down, language is a living structure, it constantly changes. Set any normative and with enough time it becomes obsolete. It's a linguistic reality. My people also abandoned Old Slavic Bible which was the first translation we had, nowadays it's literally another language, and then came a few other versions in between as the language evolved, into modern version. I notice it's only English speakers who stick so persistently to this not very readable version (and don't get me wrong I like KJV myself) because the translation is revered as God for some reason.
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as far as education of the English language goes, it’s a dead language, words have different meaning or are used differently today, that language is not taught in schools
again, are parents supposed to teach that language?
you failed to answer the question. and tried to change the subject, typical action from those who basically have no argument
as far as education of the English language goes, it’s a dead language, words have different meaning or are used differently today, that language is not taught in schools
again, are parents supposed to teach that language?
you failed to answer the question. and tried to change the subject, typical action from those who basically have no argument
There's no argument, it's cultural conditioning, and arguing from emotional attachment.
Believers who were not culturally conditioned by being native English speaker and by Anglocentrism, do not have this relationship with their Bibles. People just need to imagine being a Christian speaking another language. Which is a great majority of Christians who were ever born into this world. I'm not even a native English speaker, but the propaganda is so prevalent, and I'm genuinely ashamed that I initially fell for some of this stuff myself about Bible versions, until I actually studied the issue.
Believers who were not culturally conditioned by being native English speaker and by Anglocentrism, do not have this relationship with their Bibles. People just need to imagine being a Christian speaking another language. Which is a great majority of Christians who were ever born into this world. I'm not even a native English speaker, but the propaganda is so prevalent, and I'm genuinely ashamed that I initially fell for some of this stuff myself about Bible versions, until I actually studied the issue.
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Nope, that's a preference thing. I speak modern English, but I study the word in the KJV English. It's really not that difficult. Again, it comes down to desire. There are many things in all versions that are difficult to understand. People single out the KJV because there are some of us that actually believe it is God's holy word preserved in English.
That's another in a long line of silly arguments. The difference in difficulty is not in the number of words per sentence, length of thoughts, and flow. Rather, the important difference is in the familiarity of the words. Terms which are no longer used in everyday English, or which have a different meaning today than they did in 1611, are going to make the KJV more difficult to read than a modern version.
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I understand your argument, but what about when it comes to facts? There are truths that are different within the versions.
Luke 10:1
NASB - Now after this the Lord appointed seventy-two others, and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come.
KJV - After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
Which is true? Did the Lord send out 70 or 72? This is about truth not salvation. This is about trustworthiness.
Luke 10:1
NASB - Now after this the Lord appointed seventy-two others, and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come.
KJV - After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
Which is true? Did the Lord send out 70 or 72? This is about truth not salvation. This is about trustworthiness.
A translation is a translation. Which is wonderful, of course, I appreciate all translations, but it's still not and never will be the original text, which finds us having to check the original when we deeply study something. There are no true perfect synonyms over languages, except for "Ok" and "Coca-Cola", every language has its own system for conveying thought. I don't share the notion that translations are inspired, not in the same degree. I also don't share the notion that the Bible is the Spirit, the Spirit quickens and gives understanding, but as for the Bible, it speaks about God, but to an atheist it's useless, he will not see the light even from the original. I'm sorry... I revere the message, but the Bible text is still an object to me - even original - no matter how I turn it, I am wary of revering objects might be a personal thing.
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actually it is you who single yourself out
you your own worse representative as the arguments you make only make sense you you. Other people just try to point that out to you
fact is, If god made an old English Bible perfect he can also update it to modern language so everyone can understand
you your own worse representative as the arguments you make only make sense you you. Other people just try to point that out to you
fact is, If god made an old English Bible perfect he can also update it to modern language so everyone can understand
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