For balance, Are Jewish people anti Christian ?

[Abiding]

Living Epistle...geographically we are bound to have different experiences.
Ive met Jews who surprisingly did not know the Old Testament which left
my expectations at a loss and my testimony much more difficult. They sure
had had their training to stay away from Christians and if not be shuned by
the family. And that was as challenging as it is to talk to a well schooled Jew.

But i did make it to the feasts a few times cuz i liked the music and food.
But i know the Holyspirit works with us in all this.

 

[wdeaton65]

So. You have decided to become God and decide on the fate of the Jews who worship God the Father and think that Christ is a false God. And if we don't pronounce ourselves as capable of this we are lieing scum bags, it is spitting on the Son of God, and I believe liars. WOW! Even in the Lord's prayer we are told to forgive, I think that includes leaving God's work to God.

I suggest you read your bible, it tells about God. Try the book of Romans, it is very enlightening. There is nothing in there about scum bags or spitting, but a lot about how to treat fellow Christians who go to Christ for forgiveness.

I know what Paul is talking about in his letters to a synagogue in rome I can find just about everything Paul is taliking about because he is talking to me from the O/T. He is not making stuff up or teaching me things that I cant follow along with in the O/T. Why dont you try this pick a letter and I will show you right where He is getting his information from some times he dosent even change the words it is amazing and it will put all of these errors to rest. Pick something it is to easy for me to choose so I will wait for your choice. Blessings

 

[RedTent]

Rent Tent please explain...im very sincere and dont understand you i dont think.
Jesus said to the Jews if they knew Moses they would know Him right?
Jesus said the same about Abraham right?
So "how" could a jew worship God "The Father" and not have the Father draw them to the Son.

From what i have been taught from Jesus teaching that would happen...right?
So -please tell me why would you think God would have us treat Jews any better then anyone else?
He doesnt.

I'm afraid I can't be much help! Here is what my conclusions are from a lot of study both scripture and history. There are a lot of pieces to my thinking.

God has a plan for the Jews, and it is a special plan for them. We don't have the mind of God, we would have to if we could be able to comprehend all this plan. There are enough scriptures telling of this to make me think that they can trust their life to God. Perhaps it is through their devotion to the Father, for the Father is one with the son, but I really don't know. I feel it is my place to leave it in God's hands. God asks me to be a friend to His chosen people, that is as far as I can go.

My study has led me to great respect for how God has outlined the life they are to live. During the dark ages they and Catholic priests were the only ones who knew bible. They led in showing revotion to God. We christians still don't live a life that shows our devotion to God in our everyday habits, but orthodox Jews do, yet we are the ones who have all that Christ means to us. As an example, Jews always had such respect for life they were never great hunters.

Personally, I have met few. I have worked with two to lead them to Christ. I befriended one, in spite of the knife she kept in her boot!! because i felt sorry for her. I was impressed with a group I met at a seminar. So you see, if you are groping for answers, so am I.

 

[Abiding]

I'm afraid I can't be much help! Here is what my conclusions are from a lot of study both scripture and history. There are a lot of pieces to my thinking.

God has a plan for the Jews, and it is a special plan for them. We don't have the mind of God, we would have to if we could be able to comprehend all this plan. There are enough scriptures telling of this to make me think that they can trust their life to God. Perhaps it is through their devotion to the Father, for the Father is one with the son, but I really don't know. I feel it is my place to leave it in God's hands. God asks me to be a friend to His chosen people, that is as far as I can go.

My study has led me to great respect for how God has outlined the life they are to live. During the dark ages they and Catholic priests were the only ones who knew bible. They led in showing revotion to God. We christians still don't live a life that shows our devotion to God in our everyday habits, but orthodox Jews do, yet we are the ones who have all that Christ means to us. As an example, Jews always had such respect for life they were never great hunters.

Personally, I have met few. I have worked with two to lead them to Christ. I befriended one, in spite of the knife she kept in her boot!! because i felt sorry for her. I was impressed with a group I met at a seminar. So you see, if you are groping for answers, so am I.[/QUOTE

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Well biblically i cant agree. There was one plan for the Jews...it is now worldwide.
The gentiles were grafted into this one plan. Thats it Redtent.

Im fine with your fuzzy feelings. But a zeal for God not according to knowledge wont cut it.
Im convinced the bible says...Jesus taught if they had this respect for God as you say
they would have been drawn to the cross....so if they were not than it was all religion and lipservice.
Ill have to stand with the Word and sentiment will have to be put aside.

Redtent id bet you understand a little on why i see the rude feelings that come from some
towards anyone who doesnt make a wooptido about jews and the feasts and all things jewish...right?
I think its a kind of superstition that roams in the church.

On more thing me excluded....ive seen just so many christians so devout and so devoted to the Lord
i think its strange how you view the jews at the expense of the body of Christ. No offence i think i know
where your coming from...and its just a-ok with me.

 

[RedTent]

Abiding;Well biblically i cant agree. There was one plan for the Jews...it is now worldwide.
The gentiles were grafted into this one plan. Thats it Redtent.

Im fine with your fuzzy feelings. But a zeal for God not according to knowledge wont cut it.
Im convinced the bible says...Jesus taught if they had this respect for God as you say
they would have been drawn to the cross....so if they were not than it was all religion and lipservice.
Ill have to stand with the Word and sentiment will have to be put aside.

Redtent id bet you understand a little on why i see the rude feelings that come from some
towards anyone who doesnt make a wooptido about jews and the feasts and all things jewish...right?
I think its a kind of superstition that roams in the church.

On more thing me excluded....ive seen just so many christians so devout and so devoted to the Lord
i think its strange how you view the jews at the expense of the body of Christ. No offence i think i know
where your coming from...and its just a-ok with me.

]It is so strange we can study the same scripture and "hear" it so differently, and even though we are both born again in Christ! I read that God used the Jews in a special way, they are set apart because of this. You read that gentiles are grafted into one plan. I read in romans that they are blinded for our sakes. You seem to only blame them for their blindness.

I don't understand your thoughts about a superstition that roams in the church, having to do with feasts and things Jewish.

You see Christians who are devoted to the Lord, and I do, too. Their eyes simply shine with the joy of the Lord. But I also do not see God expressed in the overall daily life of many of my fellow Christians. I asked, once, for how cc Christians started their day. Not a one mentioned Christ as included in the start of their day, it was usually coffee.

Probably, God is giving some parts of truth to both of us. I think the truth you are most bringing out is that everyone, including Jews, need Christ.

 

[TheAristocat]

People ask are Christian anti Semite. For balance I would like to ask are Jewish people anti Christian ?

I would say most Jews disagree with our theology and they are taught about the Holocaust, pogroms, and persecutions they have faced in the past throughout western europe and northern asia. And that has really made them skeptical and suspicious of gentiles in general. In fact I wouldn't doubt it if most Jews believed that Christians hated them, which I think is closer to the truth. I've spoken with non-believing Jews on a couple of occasions and that seems to be the case. But when they come to America they find that a lot of Christians really have a heart for God's People. And that helps.

Also, don't overlook Messianic Jews. They believe in Jesus.

 

[Abiding]

]It is so strange we can study the same scripture and "hear" it so differently, and even though we are both born again in Christ! I read that God used the Jews in a special way, they are set apart because of this. You read that gentiles are grafted into one plan. I read in romans that they are blinded for our sakes. You seem to only blame them for their blindness.

I don't understand your thoughts about a superstition that roams in the church, having to do with feasts and things Jewish.

You see Christians who are devoted to the Lord, and I do, too. Their eyes simply shine with the joy of the Lord. But I also do not see God expressed in the overall daily life of many of my fellow Christians. I asked, once, for how cc Christians started their day. Not a one mentioned Christ as included in the start of their day, it was usually coffee.

Probably, God is giving some parts of truth to both of us. I think the truth you are most bringing out is that everyone, including Jews, need Christ.

I couldnt say since i dont know your view of Romans....id say they "were" blinded not are anymore than
any gentile. Because of unbelief. So its not that I blame them God blamed them. He cut them all off so He could
show mercy to all. The only thing keeping them blind is unbelief. If they believe they are grafted back in.

They "were" used...their house was left desolate....theres nothing in scripture that says they were set aside
why would God set aside a people to perish? What purpose would that make? What ever race you are unbelief
causes blindness. Alot these days read into Romans what isnt there...especially 9-11

 

[JaumeJ]

There is the repeated teaching that there will be a "remnant called by the name of Yahweh," and since I first understood and since it has always seemed self-evident called by the name of Yahweh or called by the name of the Lord is Yah or Jew.

After all the words that comprise Judah are praise(r) of Yah.

No one need agree with this understanding, but with the words only.

 

[tribesman]

Apart from messianic jews the rest of jews following their non-messianic path are self evidently anti's.

 

[zone]

the Jews who worship God the Father and think that Christ is a false God.

if they don't have the Son they don't have the Father.

1 John 2:23
No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John 12:48
There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.

i see no exception clause in that.