I hope that's not some sort of "proof text." It fails to prove your point in light of the rest of Scripture.
It doesn't mean they hadn't ever committed evil.
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I hope that's not some sort of "proof text." It fails to prove your point in light of the rest of Scripture.
It doesn't mean they hadn't ever committed evil.
Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Taken out of context, and was a rebuke to the self-righteous. You free-willers love to distort God's Word.
The reason why its so hard for calvinists to believe that someone can obey in the bible is because they are into the augustinian teaching of no one is able to ever do anything. God has to do it for them.
Then the question remains why does God ask us to do things knowing we cant do em? Then gets angry at something He himself caused.
That system dont make much sense.
So why did Jesus die? To obey for the people? Or: To save the people from their sins and remit their sins, purge their conscience so they could serve God with a clean and purified heart in faith working by love.
Then the question remains why does God ask us to do things knowing we cant do em? Then gets angry at something He himself caused.
That system dont make much sense.
So why did Jesus die? To obey for the people? Or: To save the people from their sins and remit their sins, purge their conscience so they could serve God with a clean and purified heart in faith working by love.
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He_reigns
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It would also seem that many on this site believe it is Jesus own personal faith that saves them and of course what you said, that Father believes for them.
Straw man argument.
You made it up, which is why.
According to you only some need to be saved as per your ripped out of context Luke 15:7 passage above. You should really quit trying to teach, telling others what they believe when you're clueless to the reality, end distorting Scripture and actually go learn from someone else.
The protestant Pope hath spoken. I say its wrong and outta context, therefore it is! No proof needed. Im willing to say there aint no beef, so I will just say God bless you and keep it moving, no reason to start fussing back n forth we will never agree so its best to agree to disagree. Best if ya just put me on ignore. You are impossible to converse with, too deep into Macarthurism :/ Its aiight, i just wanna say i dont know you in real life so I got no personal issues with you, but im not teaching on here im just discussing, this aint no theology class and i dont claim to be a teacher. So if ur offended by something i did or thought I was a teacher or something im sorry for that, i dont want no unforgiven buidness between christians so if thats the case im sorry and all is forgiven.
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I can't imagine why you would even 'go there'...but, since you did, we will take to the scriptures,
and this will be our 'guide'...
It is out of context, perhaps you should go study and leave off the unChristian ad hominem nonsense, right, and grow up, like in huge leaps and bounds?
Feel free to put me on ignore because I will dismantle your ignorant misusage and twisting of Scripture all day long when I find it.
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I can't imagine why you would even 'go there'[/quopte]
Only because you've misused Scripture. Isn't that reason enough? You've failed to implement 2 Timothy 2:15.
Oh no, somehow I feel intimidated!
Feel free to put me on ignore because I will dismantle your ignorant misusage and twisting of Scripture all day long when I find it.
By just saying its false and not providing any data? And yup you are right its best n i will. Aint nothin comin!
keep on truckin mate God bless
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I can't imagine why you would even 'go there'[/quopte]
Only because you've misused Scripture. Isn't that reason enough? You've failed to implement 2 Timothy 2:15.
Oh no, somehow I feel intimidated!
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WOW, have you put on a mantle of a very 'wrong interpretation'...
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after all of this time, you actually 'think' that we,' hub and myself, would or desire
to 'intimidate' you?!?!?!? OMGoodness!!!
Learn to take a joke maybe?
The fact remains, you and Isaachar have misused Scriptures in attempt to prove something that isn't even biblical. That anyone would even set out to prove it is almost unbelievable except for the rampant pelagianism on this site.
I'd say I'm amazed, but this verse-ology practice of some prevents me from being so.
Thanks Sissy for considering what I said. Yes, the Lamb was slain from before the creation of the world, but it came to pass in time. The elect were chosen in Christ from before the creation of the world, but their salvation came to pass in time.
I am the good Shepherd, and the good Shepherd gives His life for who? The sheep, His elect.
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Huh...I guess even if I said I believed evangelism to be unnecessary my signature would belie me . (I'm a bit slow. I just realized that now).
. (I'm a bit slow. I just realized that now).
The answer is pretty plain no .We should never skip evangelism. Yea I am as Reformed as they come . I see it this way . We are to spread the Gospel to all the nations. Who are we to think that He will not use our fellow brothers and sisters to reach someone that has not heard? Scripture makes it clear one of our purposes is to spread the word . No one of any truly Reformed understanding of scripture will deny this .
Mathew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always,even to the end of the age “
Blessings
Bill
Mathew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always,even to the end of the age “
Blessings
Bill
Don't forget, some have even kept the whole law, and others didn't bow their knee to Baal, so, they're automatic for heaven, they've never sinned or committed evil! There's even a couple "verses" that "prove" it!
