For us Men and for our Salvation

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morefaithrequired

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from the Nicene Creed...do women have a problem with reciting that part of the Nicene Creed?

"for us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven and was made man"
Not that I'm a feminist, but maybe some women would prefer "us human beings"
 

Aerials1978

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from the Nicene Creed...do women have a problem with reciting that part of the Nicene Creed?

"for us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven and was made man"
Not that I'm a feminist, but maybe some women would prefer "us human beings"
You have to take into account the historical context in which the council convened. They were all Men.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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from the Nicene Creed...do women have a problem with reciting that part of the Nicene Creed?

"for us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven and was made man"
Not that I'm a feminist, but maybe some women would prefer "us human beings"
I don't know how women feel about it.
Where I take exception is the word "being" because the nature of the word.
I think there is only one being and the rest are potential.
 

Lightskin

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There are people who have been trying for years to eliminate or at least quell the masculine descriptions of God.

If you refer to God as your father you must also refer to God as your mother. However there is a double standard whereby if you only want to refer to God in the feminine form then that is quite acceptable.

If you don’t like these concepts you can just refer to God in gender neutral terms. Gender neutral terms lead to pathetic statements like, when God created the Earth, God did it all by God’s self.

It’s amusing and yet quite sad to see some people always trying to put God in a box.
 

JaumeJ

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Any believer who is concerned about color, race, gender and any other trait pertaining to this exisstence is not capable of understanding what it means to have glorified bodies in the Heavenlies with us all being exactly like Jesus, Yeshua. We will not be He, but we will be just like He.

As for our Father, He has chosen this in His Word as a vehicle for us to understand . In the Hebrew there are occasions when our Father refers to various men in the Word with feminine adjectives. This is believed to be done to shsow a special fondness of such as David, Abraham and more. Gender has no bearing on our being come the Kingdom for we live forever. Believe the Word and everything is much easier in our maturation.
 

Nehemiah6

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You have to take into account the historical context in which the council convened. They were all Men.
The Bible uses "man" and "men" as a generic term for mankind. So what you have said does not really apply.

Anyhow, those who hold to the creeds should be the last persons to suggest changing them in order to be politically correct.
 

Hevosmies

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There are people who have been trying for years to eliminate or at least quell the masculine descriptions of God.

If you refer to God as your father you must also refer to God as your mother. However there is a double standard whereby if you only want to refer to God in the feminine form then that is quite acceptable.

If you don’t like these concepts you can just refer to God in gender neutral terms. Gender neutral terms lead to pathetic statements like, when God created the Earth, God did it all by God’s self.

It’s amusing and yet quite sad to see some people always trying to put God in a box.
You call those people : LOSERS who will never amount to anything.
 

Lightskin

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You call those people : LOSERS who will never amount to anything.
Many of these losers, and you are correct with that description, are behind the pulpit. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing pushing their political agendas while leading people astray.