Free will and devine sovereignty

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Lmbo that's not RC doctrine that's just someone else's thoughts on RC doctrine, but I'm not here arguing RC doctrine you are.
ok you haven't listened again, no probs,

I'll leave you to it.
 
ok you haven't listened again, no probs,

I'll leave you to it.

Again you are arguing something I am not arguing. YOU brought up RC doctrine not me. If you want to make a claim about RC doctrine then cite something directly from an RC source and not someone else's opinion of RC doctrine, who by the way just happens agrees with you.
 
Again you are arguing something I am not arguing. YOU brought up RC doctrine not me. If you want to make a claim about RC doctrine then cite something directly from an RC source and not someone else's opinion of RC doctrine, who by the way just happens agrees with you.
you enquired about it,.go and drink more coffee ☕ ☕ 🥱
 
That's not doctrine that's opinion. Show me relc doctrine not some other persons opinion of rc doctrine. I know you believe this guy HAS to speak the truth but that's naive at best.
in-correct if you be bothered to listen it's based of true scripture, and deep inner discussion between the will of man and the will of God.
 
So you can't cite anyone doctrine. Thank you.
Every single doctrine ive raise in this thread which has been many related to this discussion has apparently just passed you by.

No Thankyou it's quite ok.
 
Every single doctrine ive raise in this thread which has been many related to this discussion has apparently just passed you by.

No Thankyou it's quite ok.

You did not post a single doctrine from an RC source. I don't recognize that person in your videos as an expert in RC doctrine. I know you really really really really really really think he is but he isn't so unless you can show an RC source for you claims then I will consider everything you say to be your opinion. Nothing more nothing less but I'm not interested in your opinion of his opinion. Is that clear or do you need that guy in the videos to tell you what it means?
 
You did not post a single doctrine from an RC source. I don't recognize that person in your videos as an expert in RC doctrine. I know you really really really really really really think he is but he isn't so unless you can show an RC source for you claims then I will consider everything you say to be your opinion. Nothing more nothing less but I'm not interested in your opinion of his opinion. Is that clear or do you need that guy in the videos to tell you what it means?
It's only yourself that's making things hard work,

RC doctrine relates to Roman Catholic doctrine, for one thing I'm not interested in Roman Catholic doctrine unless it's inline with what I believe, they have somethings like believing in Christ. However I will listen to them as I have before today.

I posted you a doctrine about how there RC doctrines they use to appose protestant doctrines.

The doctrine I posted you could not have been a better source, to show the history of why two doctrines exist, one showing the bondage of the will and history of it's origin from the protestant reformation and saint Augustine and the other showing the Catholic heresesy of that doctrine with there doctrine by Mr harass-alot, by a professor who has to include every single bit of information he can.

Which saves you weeks of research..

Anyhoo here's some more insight

Copy and paste from here

On the bondage of the will – The Standard Bearer Magazine by Reformed Free Publishing Association | RFPA https://share.google/eaQcNmKCdEYZ3At3Z

In the Reformation’s recovery of the gospel of grace, the truth of the bondage of the will was fundamental. “Fundamental” means that without the confession of this bondage, the gospel of grace could not be proclaimed. “Fundamental” means also that the Reformation proclaimed the gospel only by a confession of the bondage of the will. Without the doctrine of the bondage of the will, there had been no Reformation of the church. First introduced by Saint Augustine


The Roman Catholic Church is as committed to the heresy of free will as it was in the time of the Reformation. It is as fierce a foe of the bondage of the will as were Erasmus and Pighius. This alone makes all ecumenical relations with Rome on the part of Protestant churches illicit.

Replace the name Erasmus to Mr harras-moss as I call him, he was a Roman Catholic harasser of the protestant faith
 
It's only yourself that's making things hard work,

RC doctrine relates to Roman Catholic doctrine, for one thing I'm not interested in Roman Catholic doctrine unless it's inline with what I believe, they have somethings like believing in Christ. However I will listen to them as I have before today.

I posted you a doctrine about how there RC doctrines they use to appose protestant doctrines.

The doctrine I posted you could not have been a better source, to show the history of why two doctrines exist, one showing the bondage of the will and history of it's origin from the protestant reformation and saint Augustine and the other showing the Catholic heresesy of that doctrine with there doctrine by Mr harass-alot, by a professor who has to include every single bit of information he can.

Which saves you weeks of research..

Anyhoo here's some more insight

Copy and paste from here

On the bondage of the will – The Standard Bearer Magazine by Reformed Free Publishing Association | RFPA https://share.google/eaQcNmKCdEYZ3At3Z

In the Reformation’s recovery of the gospel of grace, the truth of the bondage of the will was fundamental. “Fundamental” means that without the confession of this bondage, the gospel of grace could not be proclaimed. “Fundamental” means also that the Reformation proclaimed the gospel only by a confession of the bondage of the will. Without the doctrine of the bondage of the will, there had been no Reformation of the church. First introduced by Saint Augustine


The Roman Catholic Church is as committed to the heresy of free will as it was in the time of the Reformation. It is as fierce a foe of the bondage of the will as were Erasmus and Pighius. This alone makes all ecumenical relations with Rome on the part of Protestant churches illicit.

Replace the name Erasmus to Mr harras-moss as I call him, he was a Roman Catholic harasser of the protestant faith

You don't understand what cite an RC source means do you? It's ok if you don't just say so.
 
You don't understand what cite an RC source means do you? It's ok if you don't just say so.

Again in the YouTube link it's cites the very words of Mr harras-moss the Roman Catholic who said you must not be allowed to preach anything about the bondage of the will.


The professor here cites his very words from the Roman Catholic heresy and makes it very simple to understand, how the Roman catholic church opposed the truth about the bondage of the human will.

Without saint Augustine's work many people would not have fully realised the importance of being saved by grace. And this divide alone is seen as one of the main reason why we have our protestant faith today.

And also why you will see so many people defending it like me here. Well maybe some here, as many won't have background knowledge of this here.

But you do now.
 
Again in the YouTube link it's cites the very words of Mr harras-moss the Roman Catholic who said you must not be allowed to preach anything about the bondage of the will.


The professor here cites his very words from the Roman Catholic heresy and makes it very simple to understand, how the Roman catholic church opposed the truth about the bondage of the human will.

Without saint Augustine's work many people would not have fully realised the importance of being saved by grace. And this divide alone is seen as one of the main reason why we have our protestant faith today.

And also why you will see so many people defending it like me here. Well maybe some here, as many won't have background knowledge of this here.

But you do now.

What is Mr harras-moss? Am I supposed to be taking you seriously here?
 
What is Mr harras-moss? Am I supposed to be taking you seriously here?

The Roman Catholic Church is as committed to the heresy of free will as it was in the time of the Reformation. It is as fierce a foe of the bondage of the will as were Erasmus and Pighius. This alone makes all ecumenical relations with Rome on the part of Protestant churches illicit.

Mr harras-moss is the name given to mr erasmus 😋

Harras means to torment people,

Erasmus was a catholic tormenter of the protestant faith
 
The Roman Catholic Church is as committed to the heresy of free will as it was in the time of the Reformation. It is as fierce a foe of the bondage of the will as were Erasmus and Pighius. This alone makes all ecumenical relations with Rome on the part of Protestant churches illicit.

Mr harras-moss is the name given to mr erasmus 😋

Harras means to torment people,

Erasmus was a catholic tormenter of the protestant faith

So cite his work with which you disagree. I don't care what the dupe in the video says. Show me directly from Erasmus what you disagree with.
 
So cite his work with which you disagree. I don't care what the dupe in the video says. Show me directly from Erasmus what you disagree with.
well if you dont care about the one of most important reason to defend the protestant faith, You would be better of joining the Catholics, you will get what you need of them.
 
So you can't cite anyone doctrine. Thank you.
I have been very patient with you, knowing you lack knowledge in this field.

The professor RC Sproul in the sermon showed us and read letters Martyn Luther had kept regarding the discussion between him and Mr eramus , the Catholic heretic

Martyn Luther also once a Roman Catholic but an Augustine monk, in a Roman Catholic sect realised all of Augustine teaching where being ignored, he wrote letters to Mr eramus about it who obviously wrote backed and denied him persimmon to preach the truth.

The professor in the sermon rc Sproul read the letters out loud,

The question you should ask is what makes you think a professor would not have access to those letters, when it was one of the main reasons for the start of the protestant reformation