Free will ? Is it always a choice
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someone's penchant for self attention, backed with any characteristic, self punishment, self degradation, pity-party defense or offense & plain negativity can bring upon, psychosomatically, the vegetated state, non-coherence & any physical mental & spiritual sickness. yes, it can be a choice & the choice was a choice made coherently in full possession of faculties..
The concept of free is hard to define.
But it is somehing that is important to our social needs
But I wonder can free will be just down to freedom in a world controlled by rules.
For children who never get to choose Jesus because there conscience is no more, this is where I struggle to accept this belief
But it is somehing that is important to our social needs
But I wonder can free will be just down to freedom in a world controlled by rules.
For children who never get to choose Jesus because there conscience is no more, this is where I struggle to accept this belief
I believe they, the children sick people who lost their mental ability will have an opportunity later after the resurrection, I know that God in his infinite wisdom would not condemn the innocent. As for free will we have to make a choice, it is why we are here to choose the right path no matter what even if it means loosing one's life. This life is very short and not easy, we must strive to chose eternal life ;
Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
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Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
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I have a agree in full,
But the choosing eternal life part is that down to free will or is that biblical that we can choose eternal life.
I agreed in full because when you said choose eternal life, I thought immediately associated that to choosing to Jesus to be your lord and saviour.
Is it not the case your free will changes after you choose Jesus
But the choosing eternal life part is that down to free will or is that biblical that we can choose eternal life.
I agreed in full because when you said choose eternal life, I thought immediately associated that to choosing to Jesus to be your lord and saviour.
Is it not the case your free will changes after you choose Jesus
The will (as a choosing mechanism) doesn't change, but the choice options that God submits to the will do change.
To the unsaved person: the choice options submitted to the will are to accept or to reject Jesus as your Savior.
To the saved person: those 2 choice options are no longer submitted to the will, but the will continues to function, choosing between whatever choice options are submitted to it.
To the unsaved person: the choice options submitted to the will are to accept or to reject Jesus as your Savior.
To the saved person: those 2 choice options are no longer submitted to the will, but the will continues to function, choosing between whatever choice options are submitted to it.
because they where children when they became mentally unconscious to make decisions, befor the age of ten.
Which is the age of accountability,
From then they never recovered, but Somone said one thing and someone said another.
One said if the lord wanted to save them he could heal them.
And To another one said in the choice of innocent children they would be given a choice after they pass away from this world.
There's something wrong with both choices.
First choice is it fair to ask a young child to choose ?
Upon resurrection
Second choice many children in such state of loss of mind are not being healed. Is it fair to say they won't be saved.
What's the answer,
Which is the age of accountability,
From then they never recovered, but Somone said one thing and someone said another.
One said if the lord wanted to save them he could heal them.
And To another one said in the choice of innocent children they would be given a choice after they pass away from this world.
There's something wrong with both choices.
First choice is it fair to ask a young child to choose ?
Upon resurrection
Second choice many children in such state of loss of mind are not being healed. Is it fair to say they won't be saved.
What's the answer,
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[2Cor4:3] If the gospel is hidden, it is to those who are lost (this actually being a mercy, because 'to whom much is given, much is required' therefore, there would be less punishment for those who never heard, then for those who heard and turned away).
However, I don't think this necessarily applies to some people who die young or people who go into a "vegative state". We might need someone to be physically conscious/alert in order to communicate and interact with them in a meaningful way- but God doesn't. We have little in the way of knowing about what is going on with people in altered states of consciousness. But we can be assured that God knows what he is doing, even if we don't understand what is going on.
Yes, it's a choice. Calvinism et al. is wrong.
It really comes down to self-preservation, too: you will see the argument that "the carnal man would not choose to repent, because the wisdom of god is foolishness to them... blah, blah, blah" <<-- wrong. The carnal man knows self-preservation, and all someone needs to choose repentance is to know that if they don't repent, they will be utterly destroyed. The Holy Ghost was given to help people actually follow through with 'bearing fruits meet for repentance', but the choice to repent was always the person's choice.
However, I don't think this necessarily applies to some people who die young or people who go into a "vegative state". We might need someone to be physically conscious/alert in order to communicate and interact with them in a meaningful way- but God doesn't. We have little in the way of knowing about what is going on with people in altered states of consciousness. But we can be assured that God knows what he is doing, even if we don't understand what is going on.
Yes, it's a choice. Calvinism et al. is wrong.
It really comes down to self-preservation, too: you will see the argument that "the carnal man would not choose to repent, because the wisdom of god is foolishness to them... blah, blah, blah" <<-- wrong. The carnal man knows self-preservation, and all someone needs to choose repentance is to know that if they don't repent, they will be utterly destroyed. The Holy Ghost was given to help people actually follow through with 'bearing fruits meet for repentance', but the choice to repent was always the person's choice.
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there may be something in this about us not truly knowing what is going on with the conscious.
There was a true story of a kid who had loss of conscious for ten years.
But when he came to he had been aware of all sorts that had happened in the ten years. The doctors couldn't explain it. He to had suffered meningitis of the brain.
Then he was healed.
But is he one of the lucky ones.
There was a true story of a kid who had loss of conscious for ten years.
But when he came to he had been aware of all sorts that had happened in the ten years. The doctors couldn't explain it. He to had suffered meningitis of the brain.
Then he was healed.
But is he one of the lucky ones.
A lot of scientists won't acknowledge that there is more to a person than the body; or that a "person" even exists outside of their waking consciousness.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/dream-catcher/201111/knowledge-dreams
Psycology Today has a lot of junk articles; but this one is decent. This neurology professor goes into the possibility of people acquiring knowledge in REM/dream sleep.
I personally have experience that disproves (at least to me) that all dreams are merely subconscious junk-data being projected into our sensory receptors. I've listened to people in my dreams that have broader vocabulary than I do- and they use words that I don't know correctly in context. That would obviously not be possible if it was something that originated in the lower parts of my brain. There is way, way, WAY more going on in our brains than science can ever hope to understand.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/dream-catcher/201111/knowledge-dreams
Psycology Today has a lot of junk articles; but this one is decent. This neurology professor goes into the possibility of people acquiring knowledge in REM/dream sleep.
I personally have experience that disproves (at least to me) that all dreams are merely subconscious junk-data being projected into our sensory receptors. I've listened to people in my dreams that have broader vocabulary than I do- and they use words that I don't know correctly in context. That would obviously not be possible if it was something that originated in the lower parts of my brain. There is way, way, WAY more going on in our brains than science can ever hope to understand.
No, I'm saying that the will never changes. The will (as a choosing mechanism) is part of our anthropological make-up from creation. It doesn't change before, during, or after an unregenerate becomes a regenerate. It doesn't change before, during, or after a person dies and goes to heaven or hell. During eternity-future, it still never changes. That's what I'm saying.
The choice-options that God submits TO this unchanging will, however, do change:
1. God submits the offer of salvation to this choosing mechanism.
2. The choosing mechanism chooses to accept the offer.
3. Then God withdraws the offer of salvation to this choosing mechanism, because there's no further need for it.
On this note you could say the free will God gave as a choice has no will attached to it.
Would it be safe to conclude this.
shall we say do you recieve a new will.
A will is promise after death that is inherited that is for evermore, that no body can change, because the life that wrote the will, is eternal life not eternal death
Would it be safe to conclude this.
shall we say do you recieve a new will.
A will is promise after death that is inherited that is for evermore, that no body can change, because the life that wrote the will, is eternal life not eternal death