Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

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Cameron143

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Magenta said:
He dwells in unapproachable light .:D

He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen Him,
nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen. 1 Timothy 6:16
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Jesus is the light of men. Also, the light of the world.
 
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jaybo said:
Then why did He create it? "God said “Let there be light.” And there was light! " Genesis 1:3
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He merely called forth for the light that already existed to be made manifest.
 
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jaybo said:
This has no Scriptural basis.
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Genesis 17:5 This is in the presence of him whom he believed: God, who gives life to the dead, and calls the things that are not, as though they were. '
jaybo said:
As if you can fathom the radiant omnipotent, omniscient dynamic absolute power of The Creator of all time, existence et al. Lots of adjectives that prove nothing.
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God's creation proves itself and no one can explain His dynamics 100%.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Isn't Jesus the light of the world? Isn't He the light of men? Doesn't He light heaven?
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This has nothing to do with Genesis.

Genesis 1:2-4, "Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. God said, “Let there be light.” And there was light! God saw] that the light was good, so God separated the light from the darkness."

Now, following your (mis)interpretation...

John said that Jesus was the actual creator. John 1:3, "All things were created by him [Jesus], and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. " Therefore, if Jesus is the light of the world in the context of Genesis, He was full of darkness(!) and then created Himself as light.

Secondly, if He was the light of men, there were no men created yet.

Thirdly, the only verse I could find even remotely stating that He lights heaven is Zechariah 14:6, "On that day there will be no light—the sources of light in the heavens will congeal" which, in your context, is absurd. Jesus will not extinguish Himself.
 
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jaybo said:
This has nothing to do with Genesis.

Genesis 1:2-4, "Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. God said, “Let there be light.” And there was light! God saw] that the light was good, so God separated the light from the darkness."

Now, following your (mis)interpretation...

John said that Jesus was the actual creator. John 1:3, "All things were created by him [Jesus], and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. " Therefore, if Jesus is the light of the world in the context of Genesis, He was full of darkness(!) and then created Himself as light.

Secondly, if He was the light of men, there were no men created yet.

Thirdly, the only verse I could find even remotely stating that He lights heaven is Zechariah 14:6, "On that day there will be no light—the sources of light in the heavens will congeal" which, in your context, is absurd. Jesus will not extinguish Himself.
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Check Revelation for Jesus being the light of heaven...Revelation 22:5.
And your argument is that light is created. The Bible doesn't state that. It says...Let there be light...or let the light be manifested.
The only mention of creation is at the onset. The remainder is calling things to appear.
 
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jaybo said:
This has nothing to do with Genesis.

Genesis 1:2-4, "Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. God said, “Let there be light.” And there was light! God saw] that the light was good, so God separated the light from the darkness."

Now, following your (mis)interpretation...

John said that Jesus was the actual creator. John 1:3, "All things were created by him [Jesus], and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. " Therefore, if Jesus is the light of the world in the context of Genesis, He was full of darkness(!) and then created Himself as light.

Secondly, if He was the light of men, there were no men created yet.

Thirdly, the only verse I could find even remotely stating that He lights heaven is Zechariah 14:6, "On that day there will be no light—the sources of light in the heavens will congeal" which, in your context, is absurd. Jesus will not extinguish Himself.
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Also, separating things just means dividing in space and time. By definition, darkness cannot exist where light is because darkness is the absence of light. They cannot coexist.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Check Revelation for Jesus being the light of heaven...Revelation 22:5.
And your argument is that light is created. The Bible doesn't state that. It says...Let there be light...or let the light be manifested.
The only mention of creation is at the onset. The remainder is calling things to appear.
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LOL!!!

God said "let there be..." a number of times in Genesis, so He had nothing to do with creation, right?

I won't discuss this with you any further, since you have gone way, way beyond the discussion of Genesis.
 
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So God created Himself? He was darkness, then separated Himself into two parts? Interesting (flawed) theology!
 
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Aaron56 said:
Yes. And no man has seen God because He cannot be contained within time and space: He's outside of both. But, we can see the Son, who is the "brightness of His glory and the express image of His person...".

The Son is the image of the person of God, or, the way I understand it, the way by which God the Father interacts with man.

God speaks to us by Son and there is no schism between the Father and the Son. Therefore, by knowing Christ we may know the Father.

"When you see me you see the Father".
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Hey Aaron... PTL!
I know this is off topic, but here's a minor observation:
Moses saw the Lord as he passed by, though it wasn't face to face in Ex 34: 1-8.
Ex 34:5, 6 KJV "And the Lord descended in a cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord. And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth."
 
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Magenta said:
I was thinking the same thing .:D
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If you read Genesis 2:3 it says God rested from all that He created and made. It may be that God initially created in Genesis 1 and then called forth things...or made...from what He created.
Stem cells exist in the body. They can form into particular cells they are associated with. It may be as God created the earth null and void....substance...and then called forth or made things as He said let there be.
I haven't really done much study on it but may now.
 
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Cameron143 said:
If you read Genesis 2:3 it says God rested from all that He created and made. It may be that God
initially created in Genesis 1 and then called forth things...or made...from what He created.
Stem cells exist in the body. They can form into particular cells they are associated with. It may be as God
created the earth null and void....substance...and then called forth or made things as He said let there be.
I haven't really done much study on it but may now.
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Yes, the text does say the earth brought forth grass and seed-bearing plants and trees
yielding fruit after their kind... and God created man from the dust of the earth, which
I have long taken to mean (in a manner of speaking) the table of elements .:D
 
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