God had given us a commandment the Tithes & Offerings. How people today followed the commandment?

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Godsgood said:
The Ruler did not like what he heard from Jesus "To Sell All That Thou Hast and Distribute Unto The Poor."
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No.
Scripture does not say he did not like it.

He went away sorrowful because he had much wealth on earth.

why sorrowful?

either he intended to obey and sell everything he had, to give to the poor, or he did not intend to do so.
  • if he went away intending to do so, then he believed God, and he mourned that he had spent his life collecting riches on earth that Jr now must part with
  • if he went away intending not to obey, then he also believed God, or else he would not be sorrowful that he could not do the thing that he knew now was necessary
in either case, he received and accepted revelation from God - - from Jesus the Christ.
what scripture does say contradicts your teaching about this young man that Jesus loved.

Mark 10:21​
Jesus, looking at him, loved him​
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sseeing that our LORD loves him, shouldn't you also?
 
Godsgood said:
Because the recognition of the ruler to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:16-17)
The ruler used his own understanding to the word. What the ruler understand is in letter or in literal meaning of the word. He thought Jesus is referring to his literal physical treasure because he is rich.
The Ruler did not like what he heard from Jesus "To Sell All That Thou Hast and Distribute Unto The Poor."
If the ruler recognition to Jesus is from God the Father, he knows that Jesus is Speaking in Parables (Mark 4:34). And he will ask Jesus about the meaning of the Treasure..
Because Jesus is referring to Spiritual Treasure.

LUKE 18:22-23
22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
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and what is the very next thing recorded?
the disciples, having little faith, marveled and said who then can be saved?
and Jesus replied, with man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.

is this unrelated?
complete random series of events, or the infinitely complex and deep word of omniscient omnipotent God?

the teaching of men is that this young pharisee is damned, but the scripture does not say that at all.
 
posthuman said:
Mark 10:21
Jesus, looking at him, loved him

seeing that our LORD loves him, shouldn't you also?
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how do we love one another?

by condemnation and seeking the worst things to say about each other?

or by overlooking fault and hoping for the best things from God to be added to each other?
 
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posthuman said:
and what is the very next thing recorded?
the disciples, having little faith, marveled and said who then can be saved?
and Jesus replied, with man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.

is this unrelated?
complete random series of events, or the infinitely complex and deep word of omniscient omnipotent God?

the teaching of men is that this young pharisee is damned, but the scripture does not say that at all.
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with man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.

is this unrelated?

It is impossible to a man to get save. Because the laws were given to us not to fulfill them but to claim that we are all sinners.
Then we beg for Mercy to Our Lord Jesus Christ.

ROME 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

No one could follow the commandments of God because they are Parables.

PSALMS 78:2
2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

EZEKIEL 20:49
49 Then said I, Ah Lord God! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?

Whereas even Our Lo
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Who can obey Commandments if they are Dark Saying?
 
As we observed, the different denominations in Christianity today are obeying the Law in Tithes & Offerings in different Ways.

But God will never teach different methods to follow his commandments.
 
Godsgood said:
As we observed, the different denominations in Christianity today are obeying the Law in Tithes & Offerings in different Ways.

But God will never teach different methods to follow his commandments.
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will He teach us that we are not under the Law, but then also teach us that we are?
 
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Godsgood said:
As we observed, the different denominations in Christianity today are obeying the Law in Tithes & Offerings in different Ways.

But God will never teach different methods to follow his commandments.
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By following the Law of Moses, nobody will gain anything more than what the Blood of Christ accomplished.

Most generally, tithing to churchianity is no more than paying one's dues as they would the Moose or Elk Lodges, with what they give lavished back upon themselves by way of the many luxuries the institutional model affords for itself.

Go for it. Those warm fuzzies are hard earned. Enjoy them while you can.

MM
 
posthuman said:
will He teach us that we are not under the Law, but then also teach us that we are?
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God the Father said Heaven & Earth Shall pass Away. But my Word Shall not Pass away.

Therefore the Law of Tithes & Offerings must be followed even in our times today.
Whoever is not following this law will be considered as Robbers. And the Cursed of God is on him.

Then how to fulfill the law of Tithes & Offerings? It should not come from Man or else you will learn different method of fulfillment by them.
The revelation on how to fulfill it, must come from God the Father because he is the one who gave the Law.

MALACHI 3:8-10
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
 
Musicmaster said:
By following the Law of Moses, nobody will gain anything more than what the Blood of Christ accomplished.

Most generally, tithing to churchianity is no more than paying one's dues as they would the Moose or Elk Lodges, with what they give lavished back upon themselves by way of the many luxuries the institutional model affords for itself.

Go for it. Those warm fuzzies are hard earned. Enjoy them while you can.

MM
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Most generally, tithing to churchianity is no more than paying one's dues as they would the Moose or Elk Lodges, with what they give lavished back upon themselves by way of the many luxuries the institutional model affords for itself.

This is the result when Man is trying to understand the word of God by using own intellect which is not allowed by God.

With Man's understanding to obey the Law. How would you make sure that your tithes giving to them is going to God?
God doesn't need material things because he is residing in heaven.

On the other hand, they preach that God is the one giving material things in the form of blessing. And now God needs material thinsgs for Tithes & Offerings? It doesn't make sense.

But The Law must be followed by the people. By means of God revelation.
 
Godsgood said:
God the Father said Heaven & Earth Shall pass Away. But my Word Shall not Pass away.

Therefore the Law of Tithes & Offerings must be followed even in our times today.
Whoever is not following this law will be considered as Robbers. And the Cursed of God is on him.

Then how to fulfill the law of Tithes & Offerings? It should not come from Man or else you will learn different method of fulfillment by them.
The revelation on how to fulfill it, must come from God the Father because he is the one who gave the Law.

MALACHI 3:8-10
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
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You are muddling the word of God instead of interpreting it.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human to fulfill the Law today. Jesus fulfilled it; it is finished.

Malachi 3 was written to ancient Israel, not to the Church. Stop confusing Christians with your unenlightened errors.
 
Dino246 said:
You are muddling the word of God instead of interpreting it.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human to fulfill the Law today. Jesus fulfilled it; it is finished.

Malachi 3 was written to ancient Israel, not to the Church. Stop confusing Christians with your unenlightened errors.
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Leading the People today to Ignore the Law of God.
This is Worst.
 
Godsgood said:
God the Father said Heaven & Earth Shall pass Away. But my Word Shall not Pass away.

Therefore the Law of Tithes & Offerings must be followed even in our times today.
Whoever is not following this law will be considered as Robbers. And the Cursed of God is on him.

Then how to fulfill the law of Tithes & Offerings? It should not come from Man or else you will learn different method of fulfillment by them.
The revelation on how to fulfill it, must come from God the Father because he is the one who gave the Law.

MALACHI 3:8-10
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
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I can see that you have no concept for the outcome of what you're saying. There is not one verse anywhere that authorizes you to carve out portions of the Law you like and what you don't like...what applies and what doesn't. Your lack of discernment is quite astounding, really.

MM
 
Musicmaster said:
I can see that you have no concept for the outcome of what you're saying. There is not one verse anywhere that authorizes you to carve out portions of the Law you like and what you don't like...what applies and what doesn't. Your lack of discernment is quite astounding, really.

MM
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The Law of Tithes & Offerings is for everyone who believe in God.
The Law must be fulfilled in our times today because this is what God the Father said who gave the law. He said what is done should be done. God gave the commandment in the Old Testament to those who believe in him and he still giving the same commandment today.
And God the Father never change his commandment to everyone who believe in him.
Let us listen to him.

ECCLESISTES 1:9
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

MALACHI 3:6
6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
 
Godsgood said:
Leading the People today to Ignore the Law of God.
This is Worst.
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It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human to fulfill the Law today. Jesus fulfilled it; it is finished.

Look, Jesus did not say that the Law of Tithes & Offerings was given to Ancient Israel only. And no need for him to follow it.
But, Jesus fulfilled the law (Matthew 17:5). But it doesn't mean we will not.

Let us remember that Jesus served as an example to us so we could follow his steps and not let him follow the law alone.

1 PETER 1:21
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

This is why we need Jesus so we can ask him how he followed the Law in Tithes & Offerings because we never read that he followed this law the same as what people following it today.
 
Godsgood said:
The Law of Tithes & Offerings is for everyone who believe in God.
The Law must be fulfilled in our times today because this is what God the Father said who gave the law. He said what is done should be done. God gave the commandment in the Old Testament to those who believe in him and he still giving the same commandment today.
And God the Father never change his commandment to everyone who believe in him.
Let us listen to him.

ECCLESISTES 1:9
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

MALACHI 3:6
6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
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By what authority as to what was spoken or ever written to you Gentiles? That was for Israel. No Gentile nation was ever under that requirement, but you think yourself authorized to demand that it's for all Gentiles today?

BTW
 
Musicmaster said:
By what authority as to what was spoken or ever written to you Gentiles? That was for Israel. No Gentile nation was ever under that requirement, but you think yourself authorized to demand that it's for all Gentiles today?

BTW
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He hasn't learned proper hermeneutical methods, so he misinterprets Scripture... sometimes rather seriously.
 
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Musicmaster said:
By what authority as to what was spoken or ever written to you Gentiles? That was for Israel. No Gentile nation was ever under that requirement, but you think yourself authorized to demand that it's for all Gentiles today?

BTW
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Do you believe that God the Father is Speaking in Parables?
Psalms 78:2
Ezekiel 20:49

When God the father is saying about Israel. He is not referring to the country of Israel as what man's understand.
God the Father is referring to his chosen (Spiritual Israel) from the Old Testament, New Testament and all of his chosen until the end of the world.

GENESIS 32:27-28
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

The Law of Tithes & Offerings could be fulfilled by the Chosen of God alone because the meaning of the Spiritual Law (Romans 7:14) is being revealed to his Chosen only (Mark 4:34)

The Law is not for the Gentiles, yes!. But it is not for the literal physical Gentiles as man's understand but for the Spiritual Gentiles.

The Spiritual Gentiles are the people even they read & believe in the Holy Bible but the recognition to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)

The literal physical Gentile, if the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from God, then he is a spiritual Israel.
 
Dino246 said:
He hasn't learned proper hermeneutical methods, so he misinterprets Scripture... sometimes rather seriously.
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The Holy Bible is not an academic book that could be studied and learned through man's method of teaching in the bible schools and seminaries.
The evidence is very clear. The different denominations in Christianity today. After they study and learned the holy bible in 5 years & in 10 years they have the different interpretations that result in a different recognition to Jesus and different doctrines & way of salvation.
It is because they are after on what they read to the text.
This is the hermeneutical methods is according to man's understand in the word of God and what they call Knowledge.

The word of God could only be understand through the revelation of God. Only God could teach the meaning of it, what they call Wisdom.
Wisdom can't be read by text alone but by God's revelation.

HEBREWS 11:1
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 
Godsgood said:
Do you believe that God the Father is Speaking in Parables?
Psalms 78:2
Ezekiel 20:49

When God the father is saying about Israel. He is not referring to the country of Israel as what man's understand.
God the Father is referring to his chosen (Spiritual Israel) from the Old Testament, New Testament and all of his chosen until the end of the world.

GENESIS 32:27-28
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

The Law of Tithes & Offerings could be fulfilled by the Chosen of God alone because the meaning of the Spiritual Law (Romans 7:14) is being revealed to his Chosen only (Mark 4:34)

The Law is not for the Gentiles, yes!. But it is not for the literal physical Gentiles as man's understand but for the Spiritual Gentiles.

The Spiritual Gentiles are the people even they read & believe in the Holy Bible but the recognition to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)

The literal physical Gentile, if the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from God, then he is a spiritual Israel.
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Hogwash. You are straying farther from the truth.
 
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