God had given us a commandment the Tithes & Offerings. How people today followed the commandment?
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When one reads the law concerning the tithes, what's most striking is what is NOT stated in that Law. No one verse or group of verses says anything about wage earners having to give to the Levites one red cent. Not one.
Who were wage earners? Fishermen, carpenters (knock on wood), clothiers, cobblers, et al. This means that nobody who had no producing lands or livestock were required to give anything to the Levites. Not even Christ Jesus tithed because His Law did not require Him to do so.
Today, however, the hounding dogs of tithe teaching from wages are teaching from biblical silence to masses of highly ignorant people who choose to believe those crooks!
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Who were wage earners? Fishermen, carpenters (knock on wood), clothiers, cobblers, et al. This means that nobody who had no producing lands or livestock were required to give anything to the Levites. Not even Christ Jesus tithed because His Law did not require Him to do so.
Today, however, the hounding dogs of tithe teaching from wages are teaching from biblical silence to masses of highly ignorant people who choose to believe those crooks!
MM
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God gave commandments to the JEWS to tithe and offer offerings and sacrifices, but these commandments were not for anyone but the Jews. ( Exodus-Deut.) They did not apply to gentiles. All of the old testament scriptures for tithing were written to the Jews and Jews alone.
Christ came into the world to UNITE Jews and gentiles into “ONE FOLD.”John 10:16. He brought a new covenant (testament) for ALL PEOPLE—Jews AND gentiles alike. We are no longer under the OLD Testament with its laws and regulations. Therefore, all of the former commandments required of the Jews only are done away. Colossians 2:14-17. We have a NEW commandment in 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 for the NEW CHRISTIANS and their churches; neither of which were in existence in the Old Testament when Moses gave commandments to tithe. We must “rightly divide” the scriptures or as you can see, there will be much confusion. 2 Tim. 2:15.
BOTTOM LINE: Jews were to “tithe”; Christian’s (including Jewish Christians) must “give as they have been prospered on the first day of the week (Sunday for us).” 1 Corinthians. 16)
Christ came into the world to UNITE Jews and gentiles into “ONE FOLD.”John 10:16. He brought a new covenant (testament) for ALL PEOPLE—Jews AND gentiles alike. We are no longer under the OLD Testament with its laws and regulations. Therefore, all of the former commandments required of the Jews only are done away. Colossians 2:14-17. We have a NEW commandment in 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 for the NEW CHRISTIANS and their churches; neither of which were in existence in the Old Testament when Moses gave commandments to tithe. We must “rightly divide” the scriptures or as you can see, there will be much confusion. 2 Tim. 2:15.
BOTTOM LINE: Jews were to “tithe”; Christian’s (including Jewish Christians) must “give as they have been prospered on the first day of the week (Sunday for us).” 1 Corinthians. 16)
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Thank you for your encouragement
But seeing how I've already posted that question on this thread concerning
Someone else's post on this thread.
Please tell me exactly how I should
go about doing that when the person's post
I am replying to is on this thread
And not the thread that you suggested?
If anyone is confusing this thread
With an unrelated topic
It would be the one who's post
I'm replying to on this thread
Actually I think your post
Is rather confusing this thread
With an unrelated topic
But that's what I think
I know it won't be what you think.
So please forgive me
But seeing how I've already posted that question on this thread concerning
Someone else's post on this thread.
Please tell me exactly how I should
go about doing that when the person's post
I am replying to is on this thread
And not the thread that you suggested?
If anyone is confusing this thread
With an unrelated topic
It would be the one who's post
I'm replying to on this thread
Actually I think your post
Is rather confusing this thread
With an unrelated topic
But that's what I think
I know it won't be what you think.
So please forgive me
seriously, what is the true Church and is it really called Church?
Hebrews 8:1-4
The Ecclesia, (The Called out ones) I see is the proper word to describe the truth. I see the new as God living in and through his children in love and mercy to all daily, not once a week or three times as if one is better than others game going on in flesh nature today
Ever think Evil set the Church building up, to remove the word Ecclesiastical, for Church from greek means building. Does God live in buildings?
Hebrews 8:1-4
The Ecclesia, (The Called out ones) I see is the proper word to describe the truth. I see the new as God living in and through his children in love and mercy to all daily, not once a week or three times as if one is better than others game going on in flesh nature today
Ever think Evil set the Church building up, to remove the word Ecclesiastical, for Church from greek means building. Does God live in buildings?
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One other thing....
And I don't like politics or politicians much.
But currently every Westernized, free market and Communist society believes that they are entitled to more of our Wages than God asks of us. And they take it at the point of a gun and incarceration.
It was a major point of contention for the American revolution as to gain independence from England. OH how I wish we could go back to small Government times.
Essentially we are living off the crumbs of our wages and not the bulk. Everyone else feels entitled to our labors and not us. Where I don't mind God's portion whatsoever....there's just not much left.
And I don't like politics or politicians much.
But currently every Westernized, free market and Communist society believes that they are entitled to more of our Wages than God asks of us. And they take it at the point of a gun and incarceration.
It was a major point of contention for the American revolution as to gain independence from England. OH how I wish we could go back to small Government times.
Essentially we are living off the crumbs of our wages and not the bulk. Everyone else feels entitled to our labors and not us. Where I don't mind God's portion whatsoever....there's just not much left.
There's a difference between what God established by His own Hand and Wisdom, and what man established. Because man may dedicate something to God doesn't mean that He accepts it. For reference, consider Cain and his offering of dedication to God. It was rejected, even though used as an object lesson from then onward. God uses the institutional model for His own purposes, but that doesn't mean that it has His seal of approval upon it.
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Cain's offering was accepted....just not emphasized and a big deal made over it by God. Abel's was.
Cain was accepted for his offering....as well as his offering.
Abel's was just miles ahead of Cain's. That's why God was making a fuss about it.
And as the Firstborn he was supposed to set the standard. But his runt of a brother had showed Cain up big time.
Cain was accepted for his offering....as well as his offering.
Abel's was just miles ahead of Cain's. That's why God was making a fuss about it.
And as the Firstborn he was supposed to set the standard. But his runt of a brother had showed Cain up big time.
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Let's see what God's word says about that:
Genesis 4:3, 5
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain (the elder son) brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. ...
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
In the Hebrew and the Greek Septuagint, the term "not respect" in the ancient idiom meant to torn away one's graze from, to look away, which is a rejection. So, to say that Cain's offering was "accepted" is to completely defy the very scriptures for what they say and to create, in the place of scripture, some fantasy concocted in the mind.
I don't understand your disrespect of God. To say that He ever "fuss"ed about anything is to make Him petty and akin to fallen humanity. Such cavalier disregard for fearing God is cause for alarm in my mind.
MM
Genesis 4:3, 5
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain (the elder son) brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. ...
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
In the Hebrew and the Greek Septuagint, the term "not respect" in the ancient idiom meant to torn away one's graze from, to look away, which is a rejection. So, to say that Cain's offering was "accepted" is to completely defy the very scriptures for what they say and to create, in the place of scripture, some fantasy concocted in the mind.
I don't understand your disrespect of God. To say that He ever "fuss"ed about anything is to make Him petty and akin to fallen humanity. Such cavalier disregard for fearing God is cause for alarm in my mind.
MM
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