That is "Replacement Theology". Paul said that Israel is now Partially Blinded until the age of the Gentiles is full. The Church is the Bride that will be introduced to Israel during the 1000 year Earthly Kingdom of Christ.
God is Able to Raise Children from Stones...
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Rev 21:12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
Revelation 21:14 The city wall had twelve foundations, and the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb were on the foundations.
Jesus is the foundation not only for the Christian church but the twelve tribes of Israel
Yes, spiritual Israel is the church or body of Christ that includes those with saving faith in Jesus from all nations.
The nation of Israel is a political government that may play a role in earthly events until Judgment Day.
According to the Apostle Paul all Israel shall be saved. Many were blinded that salvation would be possible for all...
"For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." Romans 11:24-27
Wow... just when I thought I knew all the ways the O-P's botch the scriptures, here comes Wansvic to prove me wrong.
Old testament
“And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do. And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.”
Exodus 24:3-4 KJV
“And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.”
Revelation 7:4
New Testament
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.”
Revelation 7:9-10
John the Baptist asked the Pharisees and Sadducees who warned them to flee from the wrath to come. This comment alone reveals his message of the coming Messiah and baptism of repentance for the remission of sin plays a part in protection against God's wrath.
John warned the Jews not to think they were righteous because they were descendants of Abraham. He explains that God can raise up spiritual children for Abraham from the stones of the Jordan River. Again, pointing to bringing up stones out of the water of the river. Clearly one's natural lineage does not guarantee admission into the Kingdom of Heaven. No one is exempt from the need to produce "fruits of repentance" to avoid divine judgment. (Luke 3:7-9, Matthew 3:7-9)
The need for repentance as well as submitting to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of sin are essential elements of the NT rebirth. The Apostle Peter expressed this at Pentecost. (Acts 2:36-42) And the message was later carried to individuals of the remaining groups of humanity. (Acts 8:12-18, 10:43-48) As such, indicating no one is exempt from the need to be born again as spiritual children of God in order to enter His kingdom. (John 3:3-5)
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
My hope is that this will help those who eyes to see but do not see, and ears to hear but do not hear.
John the Baptist asked the Pharisees and Sadducees who warned them to flee from the wrath to come. This comment alone reveals his message of the coming Messiah and baptism of repentance for the remission of sin plays a part in protection against God's wrath.
John warned the Jews not to think they were righteous because they were descendants of Abraham. He explains that God can raise up spiritual children for Abraham from the stones of the Jordan River. Again, pointing to bringing up stones out of the water of the river. Clearly one's natural lineage does not guarantee admission into the Kingdom of Heaven. No one is exempt from the need to produce "fruits of repentance" to avoid divine judgment. (Luke 3:7-9, Matthew 3:7-9)
The need for repentance as well as submitting to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of sin are essential elements of the NT rebirth. The Apostle Peter expressed this at Pentecost. (Acts 2:36-42) And the message was later carried to individuals of the remaining groups of humanity. (Acts 8:12-18, 10:43-48) As such, indicating no one is exempt from the need to be born again as spiritual children of God in order to enter His kingdom. (John 3:3-5)
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
John the Baptist asked the Pharisees and Sadducees who warned them to flee from the wrath to come. This comment alone reveals his message of the coming Messiah and baptism of repentance for the remission of sin plays a part in protection against God's wrath.
John warned the Jews not to think they were righteous because they were descendants of Abraham. He explains that God can raise up spiritual children for Abraham from the stones of the Jordan River. Again, pointing to bringing up stones out of the water of the river. Clearly one's natural lineage does not guarantee admission into the Kingdom of Heaven. No one is exempt from the need to produce "fruits of repentance" to avoid divine judgment. (Luke 3:7-9, Matthew 3:7-9)
The need for repentance as well as submitting to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of sin are essential elements of the NT rebirth. The Apostle Peter expressed this at Pentecost. (Acts 2:36-42) And the message was later carried to individuals of the remaining groups of humanity. (Acts 8:12-18, 10:43-48) As such, indicating no one is exempt from the need to be born again as spiritual children of God in order to enter His kingdom. (John 3:3-5)
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
He didn't say anything about bringing anything up out of the river or the water of the river.
...out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
CHILDREN out of STONES. He's probably not even talking about stones in the water, since stones on the river bank would be a lot more visible than stones under the water. "Stones" does not mean "river" or "water"; it means "stones".
I see your point. Scripture doesn't say exactly where the stones were located. They certainly could have been on the river bank or in the water.
I wouldn't classify it as arrogance to want to help others to see something in scripture that they don't see.
@SomeDisciple I appreciated your post as it made me want to get a deeper understanding of the significance of the stones in the account. I thought you might be interested in some insight as well. Although I don't agree with "Replacement Theology" or that only certain one's are destined to be saved, the writer does shine light on relevant points woven throughout the Old and New Testaments concerning the stones. I look forward to your thoughts.
https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/sermon/id/4009/stones-of-jordan.htm
No, but using Jesus’ words to say so is, as you’ve implying that you do have “eyes to see and ears to hear”. Jesus used those words for His followers in contradiction to those who were not His followers. Are you saying that those who disagree with you on this topic are not His followers? Think about that carefully before answering.