God loves the sinner and hates the sin.

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If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6


So much for loving the sinner, and Jesus said this!
 
Chica said:
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6


So much for loving the sinner, and Jesus said this!
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It's actually merciful and loving of God to destroy those who do not want to be good and abide in Him. Sort of like putting down a rabid dog who is out to harm people. An end to the beast that is going to be destructive to themselves and to the rest of society.
 
When I say destroy, I mean, God will destroy them both body and soul. They will forever be wiped away from existence. (See Matthew 10:28). But please know that God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, though.
 
remembering that before the flood the society was so evil and full of wickedness that there has no more room for more evil --- if yahweh had allowed mankind to keep going they would soon have destroyed themselves, all in wickedness who were wicked with nothing at all good from them,,,,, and any righteous ones being sorely vexed daily (same as LOT in s.and g.)....


Jason0047 said:
It's actually merciful and loving of God to destroy those who do not want to be good and abide in Him. Sort of like putting down a rabid dog who is out to harm people. An end to the beast that is going to be destructive to themselves and to the rest of society.
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Jason0047 said:
When I say destroy, I mean, God will destroy them both body and soul. They will forever be wiped away from existence. (See Matthew 10:28). But please know that God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, though.
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So do you also deny an eternal Hell?
Where is that found in the Word?
 
Jeff_56 said:
remembering that before the flood the society was so evil and full of wickedness that there has no more room for more evil --- if yahweh had allowed mankind to keep going they would soon have destroyed themselves, all in wickedness who were wicked with nothing at all good from them,,,,, and any righteous ones being sorely vexed daily (same as LOT in s.and g.)....
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I am glad you brought this up.

What is the moral issue of why the people in Noah's time were destroyed by a world wide global flood by God?

#1. "People were Really Evil"
Now, do you think these people in Noah's time were innocent and nice? The Scriptures say they were evil men and their thoughts were evil continually.

#2. "Demon Human Hybrids"
Also, the Bible tells us that there were giants (half demon half human hybrids) in those days, too. This surely was not a nice world to live in.

#3. "What About The World Today?"
I mean, could you imagine how horrible things would be today if such an evil world was not destroyed and continued to exist today? Things would be 100 times more corrupt and evil than they would be now. You probably would not be alive or you would have to face horrible atrocities or immoral acts in your every day to day life. So God loved us. God was protecting mankind from living in such a dark world.


So in conclusion, when people say: "Oh, I am not that bad", or "I am not really harming anyone by doing this little bad thing"; they are seriously deluding themselves. God will not tolerate people who do horrible things or rebel against His good ways and nature. When we rebel against God we are also rebelling against all the good God stands for, too. People lie, cheat, steal, kill, and are lustful. They don't realize that their ways are dangerous and not good for them. God loves the person but hates the sin. He wants all people to change and accept His loving gift of salvation (which is free for all who want it). This is the result of God creating free willed beings that would choose to either love Him (i.e. which would be "true love") or reject Him.
 
3Scoreand10 said:
A lie from Jason that he has repeated several times.
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Is it really?

Do you not believe you can die in one or two unrepentant sins and still be saved?
Do you not believe you can be out of fellowship and still be saved? Others here do.
Do you not believe all future sin is forgiven you?
Do you not believe you cannot stop sinning?
 
I believe in "Dual Conditional Immortality." I believe in a literal Hell, and I believe the story of the Richman and Lazarus is 100% literal and true; But I do not think "hell" or "torments" is a torture chamber where people are being burned in flames, but it is a place of torment like the Bible says. It is more like a really really bad prison (that you don't want to go to). The Lake of Fire is a place where the wicked will be destroyed both body and soul (See Matthew 10:28 --- the English word "hell" is used in place for the Greek word "Gehenna", which is a reference to the Lake of Fire).
 
Jason0047 said:
Is it really?

Do you not believe you can die in one or two unrepentant sins and still be saved?
Do you not believe you can be out of fellowship and still be saved? Others here do.
Do you not believe all future sin is forgiven you?
Do you not believe you cannot stop sinning?
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Jak795 post 38 stated that "But He also expects said sinner to cease repeating the sin."
Your responce in post 55 was "Most others here will not agree with that"
That statement in post 55 is a lie.
I and the many you lie about will agree with post 38.

Jason you continue to lie about every one who disagrees with your heresy.
I pray that God shuts your lying mouth.
 
jason. e.w.bullinger proved the truth simply from GOD'S WORD, with REVELATION. (concerning the rich man and lazarus).

it is totally, completely "true", from Yahweh, from Yahshua,

but no man on earth carnal or in the flesh or unredeemed (i.e. none of those opposed to Jesus body) (including the religious bogies here) comprehends GOD'S REVELATION. as you have seen, and everyone watching who has eyes to see, most (here) don't even seek TRUTH, let alone know any TRUTH; rather they oppose it, proving by their vain arguing that there is no Light inside them.....
 
Jason0047 said:
When I say destroy, I mean, God will destroy them both body and soul. They will forever be wiped away from existence. (See Matthew 10:28). But please know that God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, though.
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see this guy has an out. he is worth than a catholic, who has purgatory. Just in case he is wrong (which deep down he knows he is) he will just be snapped from existance, permanent sleep with no consciousness.

Why is this guy still here? He is a danger to Gods church!
 
eternally-gratefull said:

see this guy has an out. he is worth than a catholic, who has purgatory. Just in case he is wrong (which deep down he knows he is) he will just be snapped from existance, permanent sleep with no consciousness.

Why is this guy still here? He is a danger to Gods church!
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I've wondered why he is still here as well. Can some one please give me an example of something he has done here that has eternal value?
 
eternally-gratefull said:

see this guy has an out. he is worth than a catholic, who has purgatory. Just in case he is wrong (which deep down he knows he is) he will just be snapped from existance, permanent sleep with no consciousness.

Why is this guy still here? He is a danger to Gods church!
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I pray every day that God will close his mouth.
 
Jeff_56 said:
jason. e.w.bullinger proved the truth simply from GOD'S WORD, with REVELATION. (concerning the rich man and lazarus).

it is totally, completely "true", from Yahweh, from Yahshua,

but no man on earth carnal or in the flesh or unredeemed (i.e. none of those opposed to Jesus body) (including the religious bogies here) comprehends GOD'S REVELATION. as you have seen, and everyone watching who has eyes to see, most (here) don't even seek TRUTH, let alone know any TRUTH; rather they oppose it, proving by their vain arguing that there is no Light inside them.....
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Said the lamppost whose wire was cut and light bulb burned out in an abandoned town.
 
Sirk said:
I've wondered why he is still here as well. Can some one please give me an example of something he has done here that has eternal value?
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Eternal value, only for Satan.
He keep me angry.:mad:
 
Sirk said:
I've wondered why he is still here as well. Can some one please give me an example of something he has done here that has eternal value?
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other than give people a gospel that will send them to eternal hell?

Cant think of anything
 
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