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Brasspen

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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
 

Dino246

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Hunting for sustenance has nothing to do with demons unless you invoke them. God provided animals for food for other animals; there is no moral restriction against it. Just don’t be greedy or wasteful.

If the laws where you live prohibit hunting, or you personally are forbidden for some reason then it’s not a question of morality but of legality. Get properly licensed, or quit complaining.
 

Blain

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There is nothing to worrie about with demons
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.

You might want to look into trapping.
YouTube will have all kinds of trappers that you can learn from. After that, you might have a local hunting club that has a member that traps. Leave him contact info and maybe get some pointers. You can buy traps online and at tractor supply, Southern States, Rural King, Cabela's as well as other sporting goods and feed stores .
Find out what meat game in your area you want for starters.

There are no evil spirits involved with hunting fishing or trapping.
 

Gideon300

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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
How do you know that a creature will have a nightmare after it sleeps? And what if it does? The animal will not be in pain. Where do evil spirits come into it?

God required the slaughter of animals as sacrifices for sin. Hunting was normal in OT times and domestic animals were killed for food. I think we are too squeamish in this day and age.
 

Kroogz

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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
Where are you from? Not any "state" in the USA. There are no demons involved.........if things ever got tough, we would ALL become hunters and not think twice about it.

We harvest 2/3 elk every year and the same with deer. Fills the freezer for the year and it's organic. Thank the Lord for your bounty and carry on.....7mm mag does the trick.

But drowning or freezing only? Never heard of it. You have to live trap it then drown or freeze it to death? A knock on the head sounds more like it to me.
 

Brasspen

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How do you know that a creature will have a nightmare after it sleeps? And what if it does? The animal will not be in pain. Where do evil spirits come into it?
When I sleep, if I am cold, I will have a bad dream.

But drowning or freezing only? Never heard of it. You have to live trap it then drown or freeze it to death? A knock on the head sounds more like it to me.
Yes I forget, hitting it in head was another way.

I have a trapping license, and salt water fishing license. It's in state of Florida. I can trap squirrels and rabbits all year round. And I can fish catfish all year round.

I can't shoot unless I have hunting+weapon of choice license. To get that, I have to safety course + 2-day field day. I can do it, but not right now. I can do the field day over phone.

But... I might just get some gear and fish up catfish.
 

homwardbound

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There is nothing to worrie about with demons
The resurrection of Jesus, is what over came Satan and his cohorts, de-toothed, declawed, defeated
The death overcame sin first, God is not the God of the dead. The living yes and his Son won for us as risen for us to now enter God's courts with thanksgiving and praise, where all sin is now taken away as far as the east is form the west
Ps 100:4, 103:12, ask Father for the new heat as in Ezekiel 36:26 believe, receive and see thanks again Blain
 

Brasspen

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so, what do you think about the idea of using a slingshot on the captive squirrel or rabbit? I can stick him in a bag as if I was going to use a club, and then shoot with a slingshot.

No matter what you do, it's going to hurt it. But, I can say, that God did say to not strangle them.
 

Dino246

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so, what do you think about the idea of using a slingshot on the captive squirrel or rabbit? I can stick him in a bag as if I was going to use a club, and then shoot with a slingshot.

No matter what you do, it's going to hurt it. But, I can say, that God did say to not strangle them.
The prohibition on eating meat from strangled animals is in the Law, and is related to the prohibition against eating blood.

I would still recommend that you take a hunter safety course so you know the relevant laws in your state.
 

hornetguy

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If you are over 18 in Florida, you can purchase a .22 rimfire rifle (inexpensive to shoot) with no license required. As long as you have the correct state license for hunting or trapping, etc, you can shoot them to kill them.
I don't know where you are getting your information, but much of it is just wrong.

Like I tell people, I don't take a lot of pleasure in killing an animal, but they won't let you eat them unless you do.... it's sort of necessary.
 

SaysWhat

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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
Rabbits and fish are animals both are killed for food. May not want to carry to many out from the woods and weigh yourself down.

Luke 5
6 When they had done so, they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to tear. 7 So they signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them, and they came and filled both boats so full that they began to sink.…
 

SaysWhat

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Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
I've heard within city limits in certain states can't kill animals with fire arms. Are bows allowed?
 

SaysWhat

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Fish die of suffocation out of the water caught up in nets, that's a pretty horrible way to go or is it?
 

Brasspen

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Fish die of suffocation out of the water caught up in nets, that's a pretty horrible way to go or is it?
Yeah your right. I never thought about it. It might be different for a fish than an animal though. The thing about fish, is you can stick them with a knife. Knives are legal in my area. Even a sword is legal to carry, with regulations.

I've heard within city limits in certain states can't kill animals with fire arms. Are bows allowed?
It depends on state, county, then city laws regulations.

But, even though the state, county and city say it's legal with the license, you can still be jailed because some police will do it anyway. They can claim animal cruelty, and it wont matter how you take it.

I might just go fishing, but keep the trapping for emergency situation. I have a couple traps here.
 

SaysWhat

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Yeah your right. I never thought about it. It might be different for a fish than an animal though. The thing about fish, is you can stick them with a knife. Knives are legal in my area. Even a sword is legal to carry, with regulations.



It depends on state, county, then city laws regulations.

But, even though the state, county and city say it's legal with the license, you can still be jailed because some police will do it anyway. They can claim animal cruelty, and it wont matter how you take it.

I might just go fishing, but keep the trapping for emergency situation. I have a couple traps here.
Actually all animals have nociceptors, nerve endings to detect potential harm. Fish feel pain when hooked. But it's nothing to be alarmed about. It's part of God's creation for animals to detect harm. Jesus definitely wasn't concern with suffocating a bunch of fish in nets.

I've read there is a rabbit invasion in parts of Florida. That's a major issue with rabbits, deer and afew other animals. That if not kept in check by proper wildlife management. They breed like crazy and spread diseases or other potential problems.
 
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I want to be able to trap squirrels and rabbits so I can collect their hides and meat. And, I also need to be able to kill it. These things I want to do so I can be someone who is able to provide meat for he's family. How does this far with God, and demons. I know some hunters will have nightmares, because of an evil spirit.

Because of the laws in my state, and my limited licensing, I can not shoot them. I can only do one of two things. Drowning, or freezer. I made a promise to my high school teacher that I would never drown. She gave me a fully detailed description of what drowning is like. I am not allowed to shoot, so this leaves me with the freezer. The problem with the freezer, is after the creature falls asleep, it will have a nightmare and it's not going to wake from it. It then dies much later.
I use to raise flemismish giants and rhinelander for meat before we started raising chickens. the rabbit wringer is what we used. It can be used for other animals as well.
 

hornetguy

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But, even though the state, county and city say it's legal with the license, you can still be jailed because some police will do it anyway. They can claim animal cruelty, and it wont matter how you take it.
I doubt that.
If you are hunting legally, they cannot arrest you. If one did, you have grounds for a lawsuit that most jurisdictions want to avoid at all costs.
Hunting is perfectly legal, as long as you follow the regulations and have the proper license.

Again, please educate yourself.... you might be pleasantly surprised.
 

Brasspen

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If you are hunting legally, they cannot arrest you. If one did, you have grounds for a lawsuit that most jurisdictions want to avoid at all costs.
Hunting is perfectly legal, as long as you follow the regulations and have the proper license.

Again, please educate yourself.... you might be pleasantly surprised.
No really, they have reputation for doing that. For exmaple, a group of hunters seen a goose at the court has and ran it over. The Judge sent a warrant after them, they are now in prison for animal cruelty.

Maybe you have never seen the law enforcement before. I don't know how they are where you live, but in my area they abuse us. They provoke us so they can spring to action. They instigate troubles. They even pull you over so that can hit on your girlfriend. I know, they did this to me.

I had one police man say he was going to Kill me. He told me to run, because I am going to kill you. But I didn't because I know if I did, he would then shoot me. And he has he's gun pointed at me.

The police could shoot to injure, but they don't. They shoot to kill. In my area they make reasons to be able to shoot you. But, it's, like worse when you move up north area. North of my area the police are even worse than here.

You defend them, because it's your obligation to do so. But you knw 2 dnt u. They are trnd absrs. Thy trn 2 abs d ppl.



Take a look at this one in the Fernandina Beach news paper.

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The Nassau County Sheriff’s Office has released body cam footage from the morning Hilliard woman Donna Dale was killed in a deputy-involved shooting.

Deputies responded to a residence in Hilliard at approximately 2:30 a.m. Jan. 11 to reports of Dale threatening harm to herself and others in the residence. Witnesses told deputies Dale had run into the woods nearby with a knife. Some of the deputies on scene were familiar with Dale, who had previously been Baker Acted and had been involved in a vehicle crash a few days prior.

The video is from the body cam of Christian Copher, the deputy who fired the shot. In the video, deputies surround Dale as she crouches in the bushes. Officers can be heard instructing her to come out from the bushes, a command she refuses. Dale tells them repeatedly, “I’ve got nothing to live for.”

As one officer tells her to stand up, she says, “I’ve got a gun. A gun. A real gun.”

“You’re gonna have to (expletive) kill me,” she tells deputies.

“I don’t want to kill you,” the deputy replies. “I want you to stand up and walk towards me.”

“You ain’t gonna have a choice,” she tells him.

As one deputy attempts to talk her down, another asks the others if she has a knife. Dale tells them she has a gun and the barrel is in her mouth.

“She does have a gun,” another says.

“It’s in her mouth. It’s in her mouth,” one deputy says while Copher can be heard saying, “Back up, guys. Back up.”

“Don’t move, Donna,” a deputy close to Copher says.

Another deputy is still trying to talk her down, asking if she remembers him from a previous incident involving her brother, and saying, “Donna, please.”

After Copher fires a single shot, they all move in to find the rifle in Dale’s mouth was a BB gun.

The video can be viewed online at www.fbnewsleader.com.

[email protected]"
 

hornetguy

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I'm sorry, but there's just too much to unpack and address here. Life is too short. I wish you well in your animal harvesting adventures.