Hal Lindsay dies at 95

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Everlasting-Grace

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With modern building materials and processes the temple could be built in several months. Probably going to be built on the site where the Dome of the Rock is.
I have seen alot of evidence that the dome of the rock is not the place.. If they tried that would cause a war.. (unless the future roman prince gets it approved)

There is a thread in this chat room about the temple news that explains alot of it.. I can;t remember the name of it. but it was eye opening
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Will never happen.
Anyone who believes a "holy" temple will be built and the sacrifices began again and God will accept it, needs to study Hebrews.
Jesus confirmed the new covenant with His blood when He died on the cross.
At that moment, the sacrifices offered in the temple were no longer accepted by God.
No,

we just need to read prophecy.

No sacrifice of animals ever caused on sin to be forgiven. so to say otherwise would be to ignore hebrews itself.

but the temple WILL be rebuilt. and in sin, Jews will again sacrifice to her own misery
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Never said he was a false prophet, but he was mistaken on the "rapture" and the second coming of Jesus.
Just as many of us on this forum are probably mistaken in many of our beliefs.
SO, in a sense, we all could be called false prophets when we insist we are 100% correct and those who disagree with us are 100% wrong.
Or maybe your mistaken about your beliefs and he got it right?
 

Cameron143

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Your trying to disregard the passage

Lets look at Luke and matt to see the differences.

Luke 21 - Not one stone left upon another
5 Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said, 6 “These things which you see—the days will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.

7 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?”

Notice. they asked. when will these things be, and what will be the sign./ In context. it is the destruction of the temple complex (not one stone left upon another)

Jesus answer: The Destruction of Jerusalem
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

So in context. we have the destruction of the city. We have Israel led away captive, and we have jerusalem trampled until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled (what is this time of the gentiles. thats another discussion)

this ALL was fullfilled in 70 AD and is still being fulfilled today (Jerusalem is still being trampled even to this day)

Matt 24: The great tribulation
2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”

we notice. up till here. Jesus says the same thing. not one stone will be left.

But as we read on. the disciples did nto just ask one question. they asked three.

3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

1. When will these things be (same as asked in Luke 21)
2. What will be the sign of your coming (not asked in Luke's account)
3. What is the sign of the end of the age (not asked in Luke's account)

Question number 1 was answered in Luke. Since Luke only wrote about the 1 question. and left out the rest of the questions. Luke is responding only to that first question. His reporting of Jesus response is only concerning that first question. Matt on the other hand, is going to focus on the other 2 questions. Thus he is not going to record what Jesus said about the first question.

concerning the 2nd 2 questions

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

so you have to take into account a few things

1. No armies are mentioned (because none are there
2. They witness this abomination of desolation standing in a holy place (emphasis is added. let the reader understand. this is more severe that the warning concerning the armies)
3. When you see this event RUN!!!!!
4. Why? Because then their will be great tribulation such as never been seen ON EARTH (not in Jerusalem as many say) before or after, so severe is this, if Jesus did not put an end. no flesh would survive (he puts an end to it at his return)
5. this gives us context. He is talking about the time of his return. NOT the time the temple complex will be destroyed.

so please. do not tell me you want to go deeper. when you will not even look at the passages itself.

Lukes account concerns one thing, the destruction of the temple. It was fulfilled just as Jesus said it would happen. and is still being fulfilled today

Matthews account concerns the time of the end of the age and the return of Christ. The AOD has no occurred until this day. and there has not been a great tribulation worldwide that is worst before or after (both WW2 and WW1 made ad 70 look like a picnic. as bad as ad 70and the destruction was. it paled in comparison. Not to mention. In Lukes account Israel was nto saved out of it. She was killed and scattered. the great tribulation (also called the time of Jacobs trouble) Israel will be saved. In fact. it is the time Israel will be restored. And the kingdom of David is fulfilled

Jer 30:
Alas! For that day is great, So that none is like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s trouble, But he shall be saved out of it.

8 ‘For it shall come to pass in that day,’ Says the Lord of hosts, ‘That
I will break his yoke from your neck, And will burst your bonds;
Foreigners shall no more enslave them. 9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, And David their king, Whom I will raise up for them.


The king is Jesus. the time is at the end of this time of great tribulation or Jacob's trouble..
There is some right and some wrong here. But to suggest that parallel passages aren't talking about the same thing is simply wrong. I thought when you spoke of going deeper you meant into deeper understanding and not in piling up alot of scriptures and having them maneuvered to meet your present understanding. It would be better to start with an overview of God's plan in creation to understand where we are and how we got here.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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There is some right and some wrong here. But to suggest that parallel passages aren't talking about the same thing is simply wrong. I thought when you spoke of going deeper you meant into deeper understanding and not in piling up alot of scriptures and having them maneuvered to meet your present understanding. It would be better to start with an overview of God's plan in creation to understand where we are and how we got here.
lol. See what you did there

I can only assume you did not read what i said. I prety much proved the point that context of both things are different. Yet you stick to you main point with no evidence to support your position.,

Show how I maneuvered anything. I posted the ACTUAL PASSAGES. I only quoted one other passage to bring into context the great tribulation.

But hey, whatever, My first comment stands.. You have only shown you are not willing to go deeper. if you were. you would look at the passages with me, and not just deny the words are even s
 

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I have seen alot of evidence that the dome of the rock is not the place.. If they tried that would cause a war.. (unless the future roman prince gets it approved)

There is a thread in this chat room about the temple news that explains alot of it.. I can;t remember the name of it. but it was eye opening
Israel can bulldoze the entire facility in a week. Since Israel has a hundred nukes and the surrounding Arab countries don't have any, there will not be much of a war.
 

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Will never happen.
Anyone who believes a "holy" temple will be built and the sacrifices began again and God will accept it, needs to study Hebrews.
Jesus confirmed the new covenant with His blood when He died on the cross.
At that moment, the sacrifices offered in the temple were no longer accepted by God.
I believe that the temple will be built. No, it is not going to be holy. The abomination of desolation takes place inside, probably by the anti-christ. If not the temple, then where will the abomination of desolation take place?
 

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I believe that the temple will be built. No, it is not going to be holy. The abomination of desolation takes place inside, probably by the anti-christ. If not the temple, then where will the abomination of desolation take place?
Mark 13:14 "But when ye see the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not"
Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place"
Daniel 11:36 "And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods"
If the Jews build a building and call it a temple, there will be nothing holy about it.
The only Holy Place in this creation is the place that God the Father, Son or Holy Spirit is present or any place set aside for them.
I believe Jesus was referring to this Scripture in Daniel.
When the man of sin places himself above God, he has place himself in the Holy Place where he ought not.
The man of sin is the abomination of desolation, not some image.
Yes there will be an image, but that comes after the man of sin takes a head shot, rises again and is given 1260 days until he is cast alive into the pit at Jesus returns.
 

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Lindsay used the gospel to acquire enormous personal wealth; that pretty much says it all.