Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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NTNT58

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The overall message of Scripture is not that there are hidden coded messages within waiting to be discovered. The message of Scripture is not that if only people understood these coded messages, they would turn to God to receive forgiveness of sins and life ever after.
I never said that was the case.
 

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if you commonly use the Aramaic word, ALLAH, it simply means GOD. no specifics, just a term for God.

so, when the Muslims scream ALLAH, that is not a name for their god, but it simply means GOD.

if someone said, Praise Allah. they're really saying, Praise God!
What about alleged pagan origins of moon God Allah?
 
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Jesus, in the Aramaic, uses ALLAH to say GOD around 300 times in the Gospel.
ܟܕ ܥܡܕ ܕܝܢ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܚܕܐ ܣܠܩ ܡܢ ܡܝܐ ܘܐܬܦܬܚܘ ܠܗ ܫܡܝܐ ܘܚܙܐ ܪܘܚܐ ܕܐܠܗܐ ܕܢܚܬܐ ܐܝܟ ܝܘܢܐ ܘܐܬܬ ܥܠܘܗܝ
16 Now, when Eshu {Yeshua} was Immersed {Baptized}, immediately He ascended from the maya {the waters}, and the Shmaya {the Heavens} were opened unto him, and he saw The Rukha d’Alaha {The Spirit of God} who was descending like a dove and came upon Him.

notice, Holy Spirit or Spirit of God is RUKHA d'ALAHA or short term is ALLAH.
 

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Many sources say there are, but hundreds or even dozens would STILL BE TOO MANY!
Many sources say many things and many of those things are blatant falsehoods .:rolleyes:

I have posted this before so am simply copy/pasting from an earlier post:

That is a false number based on an egregious misunderstanding.

That misunderstanding gets thrown around as if it were truth when it is not.
Even under the most liberal definition of what constitutes a denomination, there are
nowhere close to XX,000 denominations. Many of these groups are merely subgroups
of larger denominational groups such as Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, or Baptists.


Evangelical apologist Eric Svendsen exposes the falsehood of this fabrication. Briefly:

Svendsen shows that the source of this figure is the World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford
University Press, 1982). Barrett cites a figure of 20,780 denominations. Still, not all of them are Protestants.
According to Barrett, Protestants account for 8,196 (and incidentally, Roman Catholics account for 223).


However, even this figure of eight thousand Protestant denominations is misleading, for Barrett defines
"distinct denominations" as any group that might have a slightly different emphasis than another group.
The distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices.


Barrett breaks down the Protestant bloc into twenty-one major "traditions" which are much closer to what we usually
mean by the word "denominations." It is interesting that Roman Catholics are subdivided into sixteen such "traditions."


Svendsen concludes, "In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly - and, as a result, irresponsibly - glanced
at Barrett's work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded."
source
 

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You realize that can also be applied to the Bible itself? Are you not a Christian? Just because people can't even decide which one of tens of thousands of denominations are true, doesn't mean one of them isn't. If you know a Bible version free of contradictions, then please, enlighten us...
Sidestepping again.
 
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ܘܩܪܒ ܗܘ ܕܡܢܣܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܠܗ ܐܢ ܒܪܗ ܐܢܬ ܕܐܠܗܐ ܐܡܪ ܕܗܠܝܢ ܟܐܦܐ ܢܗܘܝܢ ܠܚܡܐ
3 And that one who was tempting approached, and said unto Him, “If you are The Son of Alaha {God}, command so that these kephe {rocks} might become lakhma {bread}.”

here: Son of God or Son of Alaha [Allah] The Son of Alaha {God}
 

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Everything you described requires faith in the Bible. Some people have faith right away, others don't, they demand proof. If no proof is given, they continue in the world as an unregenerate, and sure, they get saved eventually, but they end up sinning and causing others to sin, while all of this could have been prevented.
Actually, it has people all along the faith time-line. And the idea of providing proof of God isn't biblical. That would be by sight, not faith.
In the beginning, God...no offer of proof; simply a declaration.
 

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Billions of people are being pulled away from Christianity because we can't even tell what it means, which church is the true church or which commandments we need to follow. Christians are divided on all of these things and all it does is drive people away to Islam, with it's more clear doctrine. This video may or may not provide additional prove of the Bible that many people are demanding.
"Billions of people being pulled away" sounds like the great falling away in 2 Thessalonians 2
https://www.easyenglish.bible/bible/easy/2-thessalonians/2/

"additional proof people are demanding"?
Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.

Luke 24:13-32
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/road-to-emmaus_bible/

JESUS reveals Himself to us, not codes. You're thinking in 2d with computer algorithms, codes & arrangements.
Besides, how can a code contain CONTEXT?

Personally, I think you're adding words to the Bible.
Please be careful, it's a terrible thing to be in the hands of the living God.
We'll pray for you (the small group of us that don't go to church for various reasons - ill-health, bad doctrine etc)
 
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and my Muslim friends have instructed this is what it means. and none of them worship the Moon. the Bible is speaking about a specific sect of Ishmael's offspring.
 
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here is Jesus using Alaha to say GOD:

ܘ ܕܝܢ ܥܢܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܟܬܝܒ ܕܠܐ ܗܘܐ ܒܠܚܡܐ ܒܠܚܘܕ ܚܝܐ ܒܪ ܐܢܫܐ ܐܠܐ ܒܟܠ ܡܠܐ ܕܢܦܩܐ ܡܢ ܦܘܡܗ ܕܐܠܗܐ
4 Then He answered and said, “It is written that ‘a son of man doesn’t live by lakhma {bread} alone, but rather, by every word that proceeds from the mouth of Alaha {God}!’”


from the mouth of Alaha {God}
 

Magenta

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Actually, it has people all along the faith time-line. And the idea of providing proof of God isn't biblical.
That would be by sight, not faith. In the beginning, God...no offer of proof; simply a declaration.
I do not doubt that God can use many ways and means of drawing His own to Himself.

It is simply highly doubtful that many Christians already convinced of the truth of God's revealed
written Word will adopt this means of evangelizing to the lost and those in need of the Truth.


So to bring all this coded messages and numbers stuff here is a bit... counterproductive, perhaps.
 
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the Muslims understand the Christian as much as the Christian understands the Muslims, which is diddly SQUAT!
 

Anni

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This kind of preaching is why many people become Muslim. Codes in nature may prove intelligent creator, but who's to prove that it's the God of the Bible and not Quran?
I just read the post above and I had a sense of such dread.
If you don't realise the gravity of your question, may the Living God have mercy on you.
I'm sorry, I'm done with this.
 

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Actually, it has people all along the faith time-line. And the idea of providing proof of God isn't biblical. That would be by sight, not faith.
In the beginning, God...no offer of proof; simply a declaration.
You need to prove the Bible to people who demand proof. Otherwise, this is why people who start to believe in God end up become Muslim.
 

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I do not doubt that God can use any ways and means of drawing His own to Himself.

It is simply highly doubtful that many Christians already convinced of the truth of God's revealed
written Word will adopt this means of evangelizing to the lost and those in need of the Truth.


So to bring all this coded messages and numbers stuff here is a bit... counterproductive, perhaps.
I'm not opposed to becoming all things to all people that by all means some receive salvation. But even proof can be denied. Without a supernatural work of God employing faith as an instrument of grace, no one is saved.
I'm merely pointing out that truth alone doesn't lead to salvation.
 

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I just read the post above and I had a sense of such dread.
If you don't realise the gravity of your question, may the Living God have mercy on you.
I'm sorry, I'm done with this.
People become Muslim more than ever because Christians shy away from difficult discussions about God, while Muslims don't.
 

Cameron143

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You need to prove the Bible to people who demand proof. Otherwise, this is why people who start to believe in God end up become Muslim.
This isn't true. Faith, as described in Hebrews 11, is the proof.
 

Magenta

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I'm not opposed to becoming all things to all people that by all means some receive salvation. But
even proof can be denied. Without a supernatural work of God employing faith as an instrument of
grace, no one is saved. I'm merely pointing out that truth alone doesn't lead to salvation.
My apologies if it seemed I was criticizing you in any way... We are in agreement far more often than otherwise .(y):)