Has Covid-19 changed/refined anyone's beliefs about how God heals today?
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What's interesting is that we were already neck deep in pandemics that most of us, except the vulnerable, had already developed strong resistances against. The thing with COVID-19 is that it's novel, so people are overly-concerned because they're suddenly vulnerable to a dangerous virus.
I think if we look at plagues from a broader historical perspective, dating back thousands of years up until the present and then re-ask ourselves the question of how God heals today then the answer becomes apparent that nothing has changed.
We do, in fact, live in a fallen world; thorns, thistles, and plagues are part of that package deal.
I think if we look at plagues from a broader historical perspective, dating back thousands of years up until the present and then re-ask ourselves the question of how God heals today then the answer becomes apparent that nothing has changed.
We do, in fact, live in a fallen world; thorns, thistles, and plagues are part of that package deal.
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We are not neck deep in Pandemics. The last world wide pandemic happened between 1918 and 1920. This current one attacks anyone
not just the weak, although the effects of getting it varies considerably in each individual. You are more likely to die from it if you are
elderly or have some underlying medical condition. There have been cases of young healthy people who have died. One example is a
21 year old woman who had no medical conditions whatsoever.
not just the weak, although the effects of getting it varies considerably in each individual. You are more likely to die from it if you are
elderly or have some underlying medical condition. There have been cases of young healthy people who have died. One example is a
21 year old woman who had no medical conditions whatsoever.
(Sources: CDC)
Pandemic- Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population.
Current known cases of COVID-19 worldwide in 2020: 693,224
Current known cases of influenza worldwide in 2020: 38,000,000 - 54,000,000
Current known cases of HIV worldwide in 2020: 38,000,000
I can keep going, but you get the point now. There are pandemics everywhere already, but we're just used to them being around because we've figured out how to deal with them.
COVID-19 seems sensational because of alarmists and yes it is dangerous, but I think this is just indicative of how desensitized we are to how many deadly diseases are actually going around.
Pandemic- Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population.
Current known cases of COVID-19 worldwide in 2020: 693,224
Current known cases of influenza worldwide in 2020: 38,000,000 - 54,000,000
Current known cases of HIV worldwide in 2020: 38,000,000
I can keep going, but you get the point now. There are pandemics everywhere already, but we're just used to them being around because we've figured out how to deal with them.
COVID-19 seems sensational because of alarmists and yes it is dangerous, but I think this is just indicative of how desensitized we are to how many deadly diseases are actually going around.
Well may I speak some truth? "Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching."
Now lets look at how some talk and Gods answer to that "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;"
Look how some talk about their family, brothers and sisters in Christ. Knowing that Christ will some day tell the sheep and goats "if you did it to the least of these my brethren". The ones that are being talked about are HIS brethren.. His kids.
I have no clue why "pentecostal and charismatic" get talked about like this. I can't find Jesus ever using those words those groups. So YOU please tell me what Christ means by who so ever and in my name "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
The simple fact is.. why are you not praying for the sick? No where is it written ONLY Pastors, prophets and Apostles can pray for the sick. We read in the gospels a man was going around healing. The 12 wanted to stop him. Christ said.. these signs shall follow them that believe. They follow me. There happening all over the world right now. Focus on the bad or negative and thats what you will see.
I am no one. My word have no wright. I can share with you SO many stories of the things GOD has done in my life. Blow you away. But.. makes me shine and.. not wise. I sin just as much or more then anyone else. I repent all the time. I cry out to be so much like Him to see people through His eyes.. to feel to have that compassion He has. My only reasoning to why this happens is.. I just believe what He said. A verse to this very day that just JUMPS out is where Peter and John at the gate. What they had you and me have. They even said it at the end.. we didnt do this by our own power its faith in that name.
These signs follow them that believe. THOSE are the people I put around me. I put those of faith. That say "if we say anything that is now written do not believe us". If I doubt I will not get anything from God. He provided all we will ever need. No gift is gone.. its all working today. Take a trip to some 3rd world nation. You will see SO much power of God there. Then come back to America.... WOW...so much doubt. You have JESUS in you.. those SIGNS are HIM in you. Its not you. You just do what HE said.. just believe. Not what I say or anyone else. DONT BELIEVE ME Jesus is real.. Hes alive. You can pray seek and simply ASK HIM!
Faith works BOTH WAYS! You and me do receive just what we believe and say. So look listen to the word you speak. Are they HIS? Do you watch listen feel as the world does? ON earth as it IS in heaven. No sickness there. HIS will be done. If I offended forgive me
Now lets look at how some talk and Gods answer to that "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;"
Look how some talk about their family, brothers and sisters in Christ. Knowing that Christ will some day tell the sheep and goats "if you did it to the least of these my brethren". The ones that are being talked about are HIS brethren.. His kids.
I have no clue why "pentecostal and charismatic" get talked about like this. I can't find Jesus ever using those words those groups. So YOU please tell me what Christ means by who so ever and in my name "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
The simple fact is.. why are you not praying for the sick? No where is it written ONLY Pastors, prophets and Apostles can pray for the sick. We read in the gospels a man was going around healing. The 12 wanted to stop him. Christ said.. these signs shall follow them that believe. They follow me. There happening all over the world right now. Focus on the bad or negative and thats what you will see.
I am no one. My word have no wright. I can share with you SO many stories of the things GOD has done in my life. Blow you away. But.. makes me shine and.. not wise. I sin just as much or more then anyone else. I repent all the time. I cry out to be so much like Him to see people through His eyes.. to feel to have that compassion He has. My only reasoning to why this happens is.. I just believe what He said. A verse to this very day that just JUMPS out is where Peter and John at the gate. What they had you and me have. They even said it at the end.. we didnt do this by our own power its faith in that name.
These signs follow them that believe. THOSE are the people I put around me. I put those of faith. That say "if we say anything that is now written do not believe us". If I doubt I will not get anything from God. He provided all we will ever need. No gift is gone.. its all working today. Take a trip to some 3rd world nation. You will see SO much power of God there. Then come back to America.... WOW...so much doubt. You have JESUS in you.. those SIGNS are HIM in you. Its not you. You just do what HE said.. just believe. Not what I say or anyone else. DONT BELIEVE ME Jesus is real.. Hes alive. You can pray seek and simply ASK HIM!
Faith works BOTH WAYS! You and me do receive just what we believe and say. So look listen to the word you speak. Are they HIS? Do you watch listen feel as the world does? ON earth as it IS in heaven. No sickness there. HIS will be done. If I offended forgive me
My view is that there is a clear distinction between the signs and wonders "healings" during the 4 gospels vs the miraculous healings we see nowadays.
Those signs and wonders Jesus did left people in no doubt that something really special has happened.
The healings we see now, in the church that I am attending in Singapore, are mostly the senior pastor calling out people with body aches, arm pains, etc etc, that really, even when the person in the congregation stands up and testify publicly, any objective person can tell these healings are a far cry from the signs and wonders performed by Jesus in the 4 Gospels.
The best example was the final sign recorded in John, the resurrection of Lazarus. Jesus deliberately waited until Laz was dead for 4 days. In the Jewish custom, someone who is dead for 3 days or less, the Jews believe that the spirit still linger near the body, so if it were to come back to life, people can easily deemed that as, you said, "mild cases".
So when Jesus approached Laz in the burial at day 4, every Jew who is there, including Mary and Martha, have zero doubt that Laz is dead.
So when Jesus cause Laz to resurrect, it was such a powerful sign that even the Priests and others were aware that, if they don't do anything, all the Jews would really acknowledged Jesus is indeed the promised Messiah.
John 11:47-48
47 Therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees convened a council, and were saying, “What are we doing? For this man is performing many [l]signs. 48 If we let Him go on like this, all men will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.”
Those signs and wonders Jesus did left people in no doubt that something really special has happened.
The healings we see now, in the church that I am attending in Singapore, are mostly the senior pastor calling out people with body aches, arm pains, etc etc, that really, even when the person in the congregation stands up and testify publicly, any objective person can tell these healings are a far cry from the signs and wonders performed by Jesus in the 4 Gospels.
The best example was the final sign recorded in John, the resurrection of Lazarus. Jesus deliberately waited until Laz was dead for 4 days. In the Jewish custom, someone who is dead for 3 days or less, the Jews believe that the spirit still linger near the body, so if it were to come back to life, people can easily deemed that as, you said, "mild cases".
So when Jesus approached Laz in the burial at day 4, every Jew who is there, including Mary and Martha, have zero doubt that Laz is dead.
So when Jesus cause Laz to resurrect, it was such a powerful sign that even the Priests and others were aware that, if they don't do anything, all the Jews would really acknowledged Jesus is indeed the promised Messiah.
John 11:47-48
47 Therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees convened a council, and were saying, “What are we doing? For this man is performing many [l]signs. 48 If we let Him go on like this, all men will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.”
I dont' really understand your question" are the signs and wonders still in force today or after the rapture ..........
Before I answer your question, may ask you;
1) Do you have any knowledge on the Bible about this subject? If not, very difficult for me to explain it to you and you wont believe and we might end up arguing which I am trying to avoid.
Before I answer your question, may ask you;
1) Do you have any knowledge on the Bible about this subject? If not, very difficult for me to explain it to you and you wont believe and we might end up arguing which I am trying to avoid.
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I believe this is a warning shot. I believe God has allowed this to happen to get all of our attention. Saints and sinners.
The same as in the past with the other plagues.
I believe we need to listen very carefully on what the Lord will have us do. Social distancing is not against the Lord but to go against it is tempting him.
Has he got your attention now?
The time is coming and is already here that these events and many others shall be common in our lives.
God uses cause and effect in my opinion to serve his purpose.
In the days of Moses the Israelites were to stay inside after painting the door post and follow the instructions of the Lord.
Are your door post painted?
The Lord in many cases calls upon his people to repent not the wicked but his people.
I must say that personally I have been luke warm in my walk and need the holy spirit to bring the fire again not only for me but for the sake of others.
The church needs to get back on track and that begins when we seek our first love.
Moses and Jesus were prime examples of standing in the stead of others. Praying for those who don't pray. Seeking for those who don't seek. Upholding those that are weak, diligently seeking the lost.
The same as in the past with the other plagues.
I believe we need to listen very carefully on what the Lord will have us do. Social distancing is not against the Lord but to go against it is tempting him.
Has he got your attention now?
The time is coming and is already here that these events and many others shall be common in our lives.
God uses cause and effect in my opinion to serve his purpose.
In the days of Moses the Israelites were to stay inside after painting the door post and follow the instructions of the Lord.
Are your door post painted?
The Lord in many cases calls upon his people to repent not the wicked but his people.
I must say that personally I have been luke warm in my walk and need the holy spirit to bring the fire again not only for me but for the sake of others.
The church needs to get back on track and that begins when we seek our first love.
Moses and Jesus were prime examples of standing in the stead of others. Praying for those who don't pray. Seeking for those who don't seek. Upholding those that are weak, diligently seeking the lost.
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