Have i committed the what is described in Hebrews 10:26 please any help would be appreciated
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Fret not for we might sin after we are saved, but all we have to do is repent and not want the sin again and mean it, and move forward in the Spirit.
I doubt anybody after being saved did not sin, but if you are led of the Spirit that means you do not want sin, and a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, but if you sin you can repent and be forgiven and move forward in the Spirit again.
God knows the heart and if you are sincere in not wanting a sin, and doing the sin and repenting of it at the time, but want to do the sin again that is not repenting for you are not turning away from the sin.
But all sin can be forgiven even if you live in sin for a year and then do not want it you can be forgiven.
As we grow in Christ we will love Him more which helps us to not want to sin because we want to please Him.
But people that are new to Christ might struggle for a while but then might get on track.
The Bible says where much is forgiven they love more, and people that had much sin and terrible are forgiven so they love more, and are grateful.
Where someone that did not do anything seriously bad and not that frequent before coming to Christ might not love as much so they might struggle a little.
I believe the more we love God, and Jesus, the more we will not want to sin because God does not like sin.
Which the Bible says charity, love in action, will not think an evil thought, and will not rejoice in iniquity to enjoy sin, but will rejoice in the truth which is to hate sin.
The Bible also says some have a form of godliness but they deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Which they do not come to the truth because they hold on to sin because they want to enjoy it, and believe they are still right with God.
But the Bible says a Spirit led life will not sin but they want to make an excuse why they sin that they cannot abstain from sin, but really they want to enjoy the sin.
But the Bible says if a person sins wilfully after receiving the knowledge of sin then there is no more sacrifice for sin.
Which means if a person holds unto sin then the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin you hold on to.
If you believe you are not right with God when you sin then you are in the battle for salvation for at least you have the right attitude that you have to abstain from sin.
But if you sin it will be forgiven if you repent of it and mean it that you do not want the sin anymore, and we cannot fool God for He knows.
Paul got in Peter's face about an incident and said Peter was not walking in the truth of the Gospel so Peter did not do right at that time although he corrected it.
And Peter was the first person to be added to the Church built on top of Christ, and given the keys to heaven.
So do not be too hard on yourself but be hard enough to quit sinning.
But lusting after a woman, and sexual pleasure is a sin that many will have a problem and the devil uses that against people which you see in shows, and movies, and hear it in music, and I am sure that many had a problem with that for a while when they were first saved.
I doubt anybody after being saved did not sin, but if you are led of the Spirit that means you do not want sin, and a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, but if you sin you can repent and be forgiven and move forward in the Spirit again.
God knows the heart and if you are sincere in not wanting a sin, and doing the sin and repenting of it at the time, but want to do the sin again that is not repenting for you are not turning away from the sin.
But all sin can be forgiven even if you live in sin for a year and then do not want it you can be forgiven.
As we grow in Christ we will love Him more which helps us to not want to sin because we want to please Him.
But people that are new to Christ might struggle for a while but then might get on track.
The Bible says where much is forgiven they love more, and people that had much sin and terrible are forgiven so they love more, and are grateful.
Where someone that did not do anything seriously bad and not that frequent before coming to Christ might not love as much so they might struggle a little.
I believe the more we love God, and Jesus, the more we will not want to sin because God does not like sin.
Which the Bible says charity, love in action, will not think an evil thought, and will not rejoice in iniquity to enjoy sin, but will rejoice in the truth which is to hate sin.
The Bible also says some have a form of godliness but they deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Which they do not come to the truth because they hold on to sin because they want to enjoy it, and believe they are still right with God.
But the Bible says a Spirit led life will not sin but they want to make an excuse why they sin that they cannot abstain from sin, but really they want to enjoy the sin.
But the Bible says if a person sins wilfully after receiving the knowledge of sin then there is no more sacrifice for sin.
Which means if a person holds unto sin then the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin you hold on to.
If you believe you are not right with God when you sin then you are in the battle for salvation for at least you have the right attitude that you have to abstain from sin.
But if you sin it will be forgiven if you repent of it and mean it that you do not want the sin anymore, and we cannot fool God for He knows.
Paul got in Peter's face about an incident and said Peter was not walking in the truth of the Gospel so Peter did not do right at that time although he corrected it.
And Peter was the first person to be added to the Church built on top of Christ, and given the keys to heaven.
So do not be too hard on yourself but be hard enough to quit sinning.
But lusting after a woman, and sexual pleasure is a sin that many will have a problem and the devil uses that against people which you see in shows, and movies, and hear it in music, and I am sure that many had a problem with that for a while when they were first saved.
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2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
It is true that there are many hypocrites today and believe falsehoods concerning Christianity.
But the falling away spoken in 2 Thessalonians 2 is not talking about the Church but the condition of the world in response to the Gospel.
Which the nations governments will come together as one to work for peace on earth, and stop the preaching of the Gospel, and the belief in a God on a world wide level which allowed the New Age Christ/antichrist to be able to rule over the world in which God will end sin on earth.
The gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church so the Church can never fall away.
There may be a lot of hypocrites but the Church can never fall away, and hypocrites to not void out or change Christianity.
And the hypocrites do not belong to the Church and do not belong to Jesus.
So their bad behavior has no bearing on the Church for they are not part of it.
There is no such thing as a hypocritical Christian for a person cannot be both at the same time.
The truth is a hypocrite belongs to the world so when a person points their finger at a person claiming Christ and say hypocrite they are really pointing their finger at their own kind that will not do right by God.
Like their hypocritical politicians, and married couples, and police, and judges, and throughout all facets of society for that is how the world operates.
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
It is true that there are many hypocrites today and believe falsehoods concerning Christianity.
But the falling away spoken in 2 Thessalonians 2 is not talking about the Church but the condition of the world in response to the Gospel.
Which the nations governments will come together as one to work for peace on earth, and stop the preaching of the Gospel, and the belief in a God on a world wide level which allowed the New Age Christ/antichrist to be able to rule over the world in which God will end sin on earth.
The gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church so the Church can never fall away.
There may be a lot of hypocrites but the Church can never fall away, and hypocrites to not void out or change Christianity.
And the hypocrites do not belong to the Church and do not belong to Jesus.
So their bad behavior has no bearing on the Church for they are not part of it.
There is no such thing as a hypocritical Christian for a person cannot be both at the same time.
The truth is a hypocrite belongs to the world so when a person points their finger at a person claiming Christ and say hypocrite they are really pointing their finger at their own kind that will not do right by God.
Like their hypocritical politicians, and married couples, and police, and judges, and throughout all facets of society for that is how the world operates.
What does the word of God say
Roman 6:
1. Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? 2 Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it?
3 Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death? 4 For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
5 Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was. 6 We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin.
7 For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin.
8 And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him. 9 We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 10 When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. 11 So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus.
12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God.
14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.
Roman 6:
1. Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? 2 Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it?
3 Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death? 4 For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
5 Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was. 6 We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin.
7 For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin.
8 And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him. 9 We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 10 When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. 11 So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus.
12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God.
14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.
i woke up today, thanked God and asked for the overflow of the Holy Spirit.
i was determined to make this day a Sinless Day.
I then stepped onto one of my dog's broken down bone and when i skipped off the bone ran my foot into the corner of 2 adjoining walls, and balancing myself stubbed my big toe on my other foot.
before i could say, Thank You, Jesus!
i had a conversation with the wall that had it been another human would have been a poor example of a Follower of God.
so, my sinless day, ended within the first 10 minutes of my Sinless Day Plan!
i was determined to make this day a Sinless Day.
I then stepped onto one of my dog's broken down bone and when i skipped off the bone ran my foot into the corner of 2 adjoining walls, and balancing myself stubbed my big toe on my other foot.
before i could say, Thank You, Jesus!
i had a conversation with the wall that had it been another human would have been a poor example of a Follower of God.
so, my sinless day, ended within the first 10 minutes of my Sinless Day Plan!
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Those whom God saves cannot lose their salvation because it was solely by Christ and not of themselves. Since having done nothing
to obtain it, then nothing they can do will take it away - it was a free gift from God. Those who may appear to be Christians yet
lose their faith in Christ and fall away, do so because they had never become saved, never having had true faith - their faith being a work of their own doing, not of God's. Those truly saved will never lose it.
[Luk 8:13 KJV] 13 They on the rock [are they], which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Those saved cannot lose their faith in Christ because true faith was a gift from God, and as such, are kept by the power of God not man.
[1Pe 1:4-5 KJV]
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
to obtain it, then nothing they can do will take it away - it was a free gift from God. Those who may appear to be Christians yet
lose their faith in Christ and fall away, do so because they had never become saved, never having had true faith - their faith being a work of their own doing, not of God's. Those truly saved will never lose it.
[Luk 8:13 KJV] 13 They on the rock [are they], which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Those saved cannot lose their faith in Christ because true faith was a gift from God, and as such, are kept by the power of God not man.
[1Pe 1:4-5 KJV]
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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Concerning the masturbation problem, you have to constantly keep in mind that every person you come across is either a Christian or potential Christian. You have to think of them as potential brothers or sisters. When your body starts kicking in, that's when your Christianity is tested and you have to be strong and dispel all sexual thoughts just as fast as they enter your head and at the same time asking God for strength to overcome.
I never said, I do not continuously strive to not Sin. I have been discussing Bible with people called Holiness Pentecostal. Basically, one can be sinless. So, today, ironically enough, because finding this Thread. But, i did wake up putting the i can go sinless for a day to the test. and like God wanted to show me it's not what i am able to do, and BOOM, a series of painful barefoot events took place and in the midst of throbbing pain and bloody toe nail, i wasn't so happy and tickled pink like a balloon sailing peacefully in the sky. nope, i was irate at my dog for placing that bone where i could only ever find it was by stepping onto it barefoot. and having the toes split apart where the corner of 2 walls connect was very pleasant to experience.
if you were able to do it and end up smiling and whistling, i'd call you a robot. no one is expecting that level of pain, and then it increases for both feet at the toes and it just automatically causes one to burst out singing,
if you were able to do it and end up smiling and whistling, i'd call you a robot. no one is expecting that level of pain, and then it increases for both feet at the toes and it just automatically causes one to burst out singing,
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The bottom line? where in Hebrews 10. 26. does it say you can lose your salvation? are you going to add a bottom line?
If you were relying upon your faithfulness or your ability to be or to remain faithful unto death when you came to the cross I tell you the truth you would not be saved on that basis
Surely you came to the cross utterly bankrupt, wretched, without hope and without God. Now the trick is to stay there
At the cross, utterly bankrupt. If you are now saying you are depending upon your faithfulness, your ability to remain faithful unto death, you are already fallen from grace [I am not saying you are not saved] But you are no longer relying solely upon Christ and His cross, you've gone back to trying to save yourself.
You are not relying upon HIS promise, you are relying upon YOUR promise. Your promise didn't save you at the first and it won't save you at the end.
At the cross we can become whatever God makes us to become, we can be whatever God makes us to be. We can become holy, righteous, whole in our mind and body, we can become rich in goods.
We came in rags and He have clothed us in beautiful garments of salvation.
Do not I pray you go back to your rags of self righteousness.
To go back to your own faithfulness, is to do the very thing Hebrews 10. 26 is warning you not to do. It is a denial of Christ and His cross as your only hope. You won't lose your salvation but you will fall from grace into works.
If you were relying upon your faithfulness or your ability to be or to remain faithful unto death when you came to the cross I tell you the truth you would not be saved on that basis
Surely you came to the cross utterly bankrupt, wretched, without hope and without God. Now the trick is to stay there
At the cross, utterly bankrupt. If you are now saying you are depending upon your faithfulness, your ability to remain faithful unto death, you are already fallen from grace [I am not saying you are not saved] But you are no longer relying solely upon Christ and His cross, you've gone back to trying to save yourself.
You are not relying upon HIS promise, you are relying upon YOUR promise. Your promise didn't save you at the first and it won't save you at the end.
At the cross we can become whatever God makes us to become, we can be whatever God makes us to be. We can become holy, righteous, whole in our mind and body, we can become rich in goods.
We came in rags and He have clothed us in beautiful garments of salvation.
Do not I pray you go back to your rags of self righteousness.
To go back to your own faithfulness, is to do the very thing Hebrews 10. 26 is warning you not to do. It is a denial of Christ and His cross as your only hope. You won't lose your salvation but you will fall from grace into works.
You do realize that Hebrews 10:26 is not the entirety of the Hebrew letter, right? Read the whole thing! And read all of 10 not just verse 26 as though it were a stand alone.
Hebrews 6:5-6
"4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."
So, if a person once enlightened as they were (they were newly converted Christians), were to fall away, and the text says it's impossible to renew them again unto repentance, what does that mean? If one were to renounce Christ as they were being cautioned not to do as it would again crucify Christ openly, and thereby could not be renewed unto repentance, they obviously being in that state would no longer be saved but lost! That means losing salvation they once had.
Hebrews 6:5-6
"4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."
So, if a person once enlightened as they were (they were newly converted Christians), were to fall away, and the text says it's impossible to renew them again unto repentance, what does that mean? If one were to renounce Christ as they were being cautioned not to do as it would again crucify Christ openly, and thereby could not be renewed unto repentance, they obviously being in that state would no longer be saved but lost! That means losing salvation they once had.
You assume too much, Tasting is not imbibing. I have shared the gospel and SEEN the light come on in the eyes, people BELIEVE, they even attach themselves to us, they may even receive answers to prayer, be miraculously blest.
But they draw back at the all important step of receiving Christ, they do not get born again.
Judas would have been able to tick all those boxes but he never was saved.
But they draw back at the all important step of receiving Christ, they do not get born again.
Judas would have been able to tick all those boxes but he never was saved.
