Have the Dead Sea Scrolls changed Christianity?

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jaybird88

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#21
the DSS changed a few things but they are not really noticed by most. they prove the LXX was never a "corrupted" translation as the DSS syncs better with the DSS over the MZ.
they proved the book of Enoch was a real scripture and not a book written 1200 years later.
 

oyster67

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So you have decided you will have nothing to do with understanding, better, the God who saved you? The changes that have happened has been in a clearer understanding of God who created you, but I guess you take what God offers you and knowing Him better doesn't interest you? Is that how you think?
James 4
4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse [your] hands, [ye] sinners; and purify [your] hearts, [ye] double minded.
4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and [your] joy to heaviness.
4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
 
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Scribe

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#23
I am just an ordinary, run of the mill person. To study the DSS takes what is way above what I am capable of. What I have done about this situation is to search until I found a person who is capable, who retired early and devoted eight years to study. He has written an explanation of some OT scripture books, verse by verse using this information. I have checked him out, and am assured that any time he uses his own ideas not just reporting he will clearly say so. I use this man's brain to show me what I'm not capable of doing or have the time and money to do. Each chapter takes from 7 to 12 packed pages and some people who have tried to study them say it is over their head. And you want me to put it in a post!!!!!

As I have found, there has been changes in OT scripture that finding older translations brought to light. These changes in scripture are clearly explained in footnotes when they are used. When I studied ancient Hebrew history I always checked the authors to be sure they were using the history found in the DSS.
I understand, and I do agree that the DSS added to our bank of knowledge. I am not an expert on these matters either. I also depend on those who are experts and write about these things. As I understand it these textual critics have always known that some OLDER manuscript differences are not considered authoritative over the majority manuscripts automatically based on antiquity alone. One of the reasons is the SOURCE of the manuscript. If the DSS owners were Jewish cults, false messaihs, and rebel rousers, or those who thought nothing of trying to pass off a book to be written by Enoch written in 200 BC then we have reason to question differences in texts in copies of manuscripts. All I am saying is that a difference in a DSS manuscript, even if it is older than other copies we had in extant does BY NO MEANS trump the majority copies. Especially considering the source behind the DSS.
 

acts5_29

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The Dead Sea Scrolls are getting a bad rap right now. I would probably not use them in apologetics right now when talking with non-Christians. There is some renewed doubt in their authenticity (I say "renewed" because Jews have always renounced it. They contain Isaiah 53, foretelling of Jesus, which to them "proves" that the Dead Sea Scrolls could never have pre-dated Jesus).
 

Blik

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People tend to find evidence for what they already believe.

They kind of skim and ignore the stuff that doesn't fit and then focus on the "evidence".


The bible, as we have it now, contains so much information that adding a little bit to it probably shouldn't change anything.


And then the big question is, when comparing the dss to the actual bible how do you determine which is authentically the Word of God and which is not? The determining factor for placing one over the other must be the amount of "evidence" that backs up what you already believe.
Man wants to make God fit their ideas, they don't try to fit themselves into God's. so over the years they have added to and changed scripture. They say Mary changed the day the Lord blessed as the Sabbath because she wasn't there when Jesus rose from His tomb but discovered that He rose on Sunday as an example. For this reason, the closer we get scripture to the beginning the more accurate it is. That is how you determine which is most authentic. It is scripture before changes.

The more we learn of history so we understand better what the words meant to the ones who wrote God's counsel the better we understand what how they wrote it. For example, they carried a small sack of salt with them, that salt had a special meaning to them. Scripture speaks of salt. It helps to know what that salt meant at different times in our history. People who read Shakespeare understand that it helps to know what the words he used meant to him, but deny that the same applies top reading scripture. Strange how people think.
 

Prycejosh1987

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Doesnt really make a difference to me, as i believe that everything happens for a reason.