He that suffer in the flesh, stop from sinning (1 Peter 4:1-2)

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MikkoAinasoja

MikkoAinasoja

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1. Forasmuch then as Christ suffered in the flesh, arm ye yourselves also with the same mind; for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; 2. that ye no longer should live the rest of your time in flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. (1 Peter 4:1-2)

He that suffer in the flesh will stop form sinning.

It is about to have the mind of Jesus Christ, if we wish overcome to the sin of our flesh.

But today's christian's are not willing to give they self for good work of God.

Some of you do not give even your names, because you protect your selves, even though the Lord gave his life for you. So how you can be his follower, if you do not have even his mind, or his values?

Or other example, when you just love the mammon, or world so much, that you have not give your self, for the good works of God.

Receive the Lord Jesus Christ in your heart's
 
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How does giving our names make us any more known to those who don't already know us?
I know much about a person by what he speaks.

I am not sinless but I suffer...next.
 
crossnote said:
How does giving our names make us any more known to those who don't already know us?
I know much about a person by what he speaks.

I am not sinless but I suffer...next.
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I is about lay open to our selves, for the good works of God.

Every one suffer some times, but the difference is why we suffer.
 
MikkoAinasoja said:
I is about lay open to our selves, for the good works of God.

Every one suffer some times, but the difference is why we suffer.
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I hardly think internet exchange fully offers one the opportunity to 'lay open' oneself at least not like face to face, hand to hand, need to need, heart to heart, tear to tear as with physical contacts.
 
crossnote said:
I hardly think internet exchange fully offers one the opportunity to 'lay open' oneself at least not like face to face, hand to hand, need to need, heart to heart, tear to tear as with physical contacts.
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You give me only excuses.

Be truthful now.
 
MikkoAinasoja said:
You give me only excuses.

Be truthful now.
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oh, that's right..... as noted several times elsewhere - there's no real possible "fellowship" of believers except in person, in prayer, and in spirit(most rare).....

on the internet - not possible. especially when the whole entire conglomeration of gentile nations can post ad lib without much restraint or truth at all. and even when that's possible to restrain, the anonymous nature , and the evil nature of men everywhere,

precludes being able to have anything close to the open honest innocent true fellowship that's possible only amongst believers completely sold out to Jesus and living HIS WAY, HIS LIFE, because of the FATHER'S WILL.
 
May I note, with out criticism to anyone, that we can sin without knowing it? So we can't be 100% pure of everything. But the point of God's grace is to cover us even with the things we don't know. As a person who has OCD, let me tell ya...
 
exactly right. IN HIS WORD, HE (yahweh) (the creator of all things, the giver of all life)

tells what to do in, for , about, and concerning things that "we don't know".

HIS WORD is where to look, after, during and continuing in PRAYER/ abiding with HIM, seeking HIM for what

HE SAYS HE MEANS (i.e. not what man says he means).....

what HE SAYS relating to every aspect of life that we find ourselves in -

what HE SAYS is what is important,
and HE is simply clear about everything to HIS OWN,
as it is WRITTEN;

and the world, the carnal, cannot understand at all. (it is hidden from them, by yahweh's choice).
 
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If I see one more sinless/perfection thread......
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only the pure in heart can see heaven and spirit, so

if you see sinless/perfection from yahweh, REJOICE! that he declares you pure in heart.

if not, ... ... ... ... ...
 
Jeff_56 said:
only the pure in heart can see heaven and spirit, so

if you see sinless/perfection from yahweh, REJOICE! that he declares you pure in heart.

if not, ... ... ... ... ...
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The pure in heart is not having no sin and being perfect, if you think this is what the pure heart is then you have much to learn. My heart in my view is not pure maybe it is to him but it isn't to me, not until the only thing that exists in it is love and all of who he is.
 
Blain said:
The pure in heart is not having no sin and being perfect, if you think this is what the pure heart is then you have much to learn. My heart in my view is not pure maybe it is to him but it isn't to me, not until the only thing that exists in it is love and all of who he is.
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your testimony previously was much better than this. (if i'm remembering yours and not someone elses).

you're right , though, you're not pure in heart to yourself, not to him either, yet.

(according to HIS WORD)....

maybe Ephesians and Deuteronomy will help, maybe not.... to see what yahweh wants, plans, purposes, and accomplishes through yahshua.....

it's up to yahweh, not us.
 
Jeff_56 said:
your testimony previously was much better than this. (if i'm remembering yours and not someone elses).

you're right , though, you're not pure in heart to yourself, not to him either, yet.

(according to HIS WORD)....

maybe Ephesians and Deuteronomy will help, maybe not.... to see what yahweh wants, plans, purposes, and accomplishes through yahshua.....

it's up to yahweh, not us.
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My testimony in the testimony section? My testimony has nothing to do with a pure heart or being sinless it is a very gruesome testimony of my life and how God showed up.

This part of your post interests me though-you're right , though, you're not pure in heart to yourself, not to him either, yet.

True in my eyes I am far from pure in heart but to say not in his either well that kind of made me laugh a little, how God sees my heart is known to him only not us. For all I know my heart may be pure in his eyes or maybe not but it's his heart I am after whether my heart will ever be pure or not
 
your testimony seemed to be more about relying on yahweh's WORD, the BIBLE, SCRIPTURE,
and
trusting and relying on yahweh by grace and truth in yahshua,

and "it looks like" you've moved towards the side of agreeing with some of the posters who don't follow Jesus because "His WORD is too hard to bear" ....

"it looks like" (just from a few posts today VS/COMPARED to previous posts of yours a while back(from memory) ) because i haven't 'followed' your posts and don't know for sure, and sure hope that's not the case at all.
 
When our flesh perishes we will cease from sin is how I understand this scripture in the context of the New Testament.

Peter, Paul, John and James all speak of us denying the flesh and living under the Lordship of the Holy Spirit.

If you have the presence of the Holy Spirit abiding with your soul, then you have already passed from death into the Life which Jesus promised to all who believe. Do not be troubled or led astray by those who want to complete the work of the Spirit in your flesh, your flesh died with Christ and your soul is one with the Holy Spirit.

Those who teach you must obey "their" commandments are liars and do not know the truth. Obey the Holy Spirit who dwells with you, He will never leave you or forsake you. He will lead you, he will perfect you.

So many today claim to have authority over you in Christ (from their special understanding), they wish to lead you away from Christ and his simple yoke. They wish to burden you with precepts and commandments, claiming they speak for God. They curse other believers and claim they alone have the secret to salvation. Do not be deceived by their false piety, their hearts are wicked and they desire to bring you into bondage that they might boast in your flesh.

Cling to Christ and walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.

Christ be with you always.
 
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I move to ban all sinless and perfection threads
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The perfect ways of the Lord Jesus you have reject.

Lord Jesus teach us to be perfect, but today's false church teach us, to be what we are, and it is good enough, but is not good enough and many people's has fall on this false doctrine, which come from the flesh, because the flesh has not submit to the obedience of God's will, but it seeks to way live according to man's own desires, and that's why the perfect way of the Lord Jesus, is not an option.

Do deceive your self, because what good you think, that you can win for that?

Bend your heart to the obedience of God's will.
 
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And today, when we give our selves, or lay open our selves, to the works of God, (especially in area of the western world), it is likely that we may not have to even suffer in our flesh, in the time like this, if it is go on, but it is important that we are still ready for that, in our mind, because that's is the mind quality of the Lord Jesus Christ, who was ready to suffer for us, and he did.

But if you protect your self always, then how you can be able to give your life and your self to the Christ?

To be his follower is about to give our life's and our selves to him, as like a living offering, like our Lord was.

You say that are his follower, but you do not share even the same values than he did.

Give your selves to God.
 
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