Me neither. I should probably get my reading glasses on.Did not read that as "shifty".
Here's How To Go To Heaven If You Get The "Mark" Chip
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Please show us where the scripture states that the mark is symbolic. Not your interpretation of a word, but where it actually says that the mark is symbolic.
Regarding the mark being literal, it is already a moot point, seeing that we are already seeing the technology of the mark and people are already doing exactly what the scripture states regarding the mark. You're beating a dead horse, because it is already happening in the literal sense.
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"Het also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."
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A mark on their right hands foreheads:
Currently, thousands have already received an RFID chip under the skin of their hand
So that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark:
Currently, one of the major uses of this mark, is to make purchases which would be buying
So, it is already happening in the literal sense. This mark technology which will replace card swiping will continue to evolve and spread world-wide in preparation for the revealing of the antichrist.
What peter said above regarding Moses does not apply regarding the mark. It is the immediate context that should be addressed. The right hand and forehead is literal and not symbolic. The same goes for the requirement of the mark to be able to buy or sell. What you are describing is the false teachings of the Seventh Day Adventists. This coming mark will be a literal mark and as I previously stated is already being used. Therefore it is a moot point.
You're beliefs are from the false teachings of men, because I've debated this very subject many times before.
I am not the one who needs to break ranks with anyone, because I have no ranks. I did not learn what I am proclaiming to you from the writings of men, but from the word of God. Therefore, my rank is with God, not men.
Daniel's prophecies have therein symbols, types, and imagery that were infallibly known to represent real kingdoms, persons events, etc. In fact these prophetical elements are interpreted many times within Daniel itself.
Likewise in Revelation the symbols, icons, imagery etc are perfectly well known to represent real kingdoms persons and events, as everything contained therein can be explained and interpreted by referring to the rest of the Bible or within Revelation itself.
This assertion that Revelation cannot be understood, or that the imagery and symbols in these Scriptures are unknown or cannot be known, further that these do not denote actual entities, times and places is patently unscriptural, grievously deceptive and intellectually moribund.
Watch the following videos if you dared to. These are not videos of someone teachings on the mark. But are real news reporters reporting on the RFID chip insertions and who people are using it to make purchases, security access, to pay for their train tickets, etc. Watch if you dare. And while you're watching, get rid of the word symbolic out of your head and literally apply what you are seeing to the scripture. Watch them. Open your mind. Pray to God for clarity.
I put a chip in My hand:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE
Why is micrrochipping so popular in Sweden:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Sweden seeing microchip implant revolution
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...11162254663A99D9F832111&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Amen and Amen!
I wonder how many people with a symbolic interpretation of the mark, will be standing in line to get their own device implanted? It is real deception is when you don't even know that you are being deceived.
I'm pretty sure the word "signify" means to express something in symbolism, as in the case of a "signature" which is an expression aka symbol of the will of the person signing his name, right?
I don't mean to argue against what's going on. Believe me, I got the biggest tin foil hat you ever seen, complete with onboard twin tasers and a gold plated Faraday shield. What I'm saying is that chips have nothing to do with prophecy because the Mark is a symbol of Satan's coming end time global police state law, not a literal object inserted in the hand or forehead.
The word "signify" simply means "to make known." the word in itself does not infer symbolism.
You say that even though this RFID technology matches up perfectly with Revelation. All you have to do is to keep watching the evolution of this mark technology as I have. You will begin to see more and more people being chipped world-wide and using it to replace the swiping of bank cards to make purchases (buying).
Your argument is in vain, because the literal is already taking place right before our very eyes. It already is a literal object and will continue to evolve into something more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. If you don't believe the scriptures that speak of it in the literal sense, just keep watching.
Your argument is likened to someone proclaiming that it is raining, with you denying it, while you are getting rained on.
The Jesuit Ribera derived the "last seven years of tribulation" by going to Daniel's prophecy of the 70 Weeks and illegitimately slicing off the last week and sending it down to the end of time. There isn't a single other "numerical specific time prophecy" in all of Scripture where anyone attempts to insert a "gap" except in Daniel 9. No precedent whatsoever.
Actually, it's called "secret" because that's exactly what is claimed it will be - an event where Jesus quietly sneaks into town and sneaks out with the saints. But, the promise is fulfilled at the Second Coming, when at that time the saints get raptured up. Paul says in 2 Thess. 2 that the "coming of the Lord" - which all agree refers to the Second Coming - and our "gathering together with Him" - which all agree refers to the rapture - are two events that happen simultaneously on the same singular day: "the day of Christ" and on "that day" is what Paul says in reference to one singular day upon which both events unfold...he didn't say "those two days separated by a seven year period."
Did God deliver Noah from the flood or through the flood?
Did God deliver Esther and the Israelites from the decree or through the decree?
Did God deliver Elijah from the famine or through the famine?
Did God deliver Daniel from the lions' den or through the lion's den?
Did God deliver the Three Hebrew Worthies from the fiery furnace or through the fiery furnace?
Did God deliver the Israelites from the raging Red Sea or through the raging Red Sea?
Did God deliver the Israelites from the seven last plagues or through the seven last plagues?
"I pray that Thou shouldest not take them out of the world, but that Thou deliverest them from the evil." -- John 17: 15 KJV
"A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand, but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked." -- Psalms 91:7-8 KJV
Don't care about Ribera! I myself, derived the last seven years of tribulation by going to Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks and interpreted the last seven as being fulfilled leading up to the Lord's return at the end of that seven years.
That last seven years is divide up onto two 3 1/2 periods with the setting up of the abomination dividing the two. These two dividions of 3 1/2 years are referred to in Revelation as 1260 days, 42 months and a time, times and a half a time, which solidifies that Daniels prophecy regarding that last seven years is future. Regarding this, you have no fulfillment of the events of that last seven years regarding the seven year agreement by the antichrist with Israel and no abomination being set up in the holy place within the temple in the middle of the seven. Without the fulfillment of those vents, you have no fulfillment of that prophecy. After the church has been gathered, God is going to pick up right where He left off with Israel, complete with a temple and animal sacrifices in fulfillment of that last seven years.
It is not a secret, but is simply the Lord appearing in the atmosphere to call up His bride and take her back to the Father's house and that before He beings to pour out His wrath.
If God had removed Noah from the earth, then currently there would be no one on the earth. Noah, his sons and their wives, needed to remain on the earth to repopulated it. Since God's wrath is going to affect the inhabitants of the entire earth, there will be no ark to escape with and no small city to run to. If you understood the severity and magnitude of those coming plagues of wrath, you would understand that it will be the worse time in the history of the world, with the majority of the population being killed. Therefore, the Lord is going to keep His promise of coming back to get us prior to pouring out His wrath, not after. He's not going to have His bride beat up and then come and rescue her.
Oh how many people have I seen use this scripture! Regarding this, Jesus is praying for His disciples, otherwise, if He removed them from the earth, there would currently be no gospel here on the earth, because there would have been no one here to preach it. In addition, "that you should not take them out of the world" as in reference to that time and does not mean that believers would never be taken out of the world. All that you are doing, is what so many have done before you, which is to grasp at apologetics to reject and distort the truth. The verse that you provided above is one of many those false apologetics.
In regards to "not take them out of the world," we also have the following scripture:
"In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am. "
So according the Lord's promise above, He said that he was going to the Father's house, which is in heaven, to prepare dwelling places for all believers. And then He says that He is going to come back to get us and take us to the Father's house to those places that He prepared for us. You have to make room for other scriptures and not just camp out on the one above.
Here you go my friend. If this one verse alone isn't enough to change your mind nothing will.
(Rev 10:11)
And he said to me, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings.”
That verse is as specific and perfunctory is anything you will ever see in the entirety of scripture.
You do err Sir.
I'd like you to show me from Scripture where we are to stick rubber bands on the prophecy and add a 2000+ year gap between the 69th and 70th Weeks, and also please point to one single numerically specific time prophecy where the fulfillment of it overran God's numerically specified (WE'RE TALKING NUMERICALLY SPECIFIC, NOT EVENT SPECIFIC HERE) period it was to end.
When you're done searching in vain, I'll be happy to show you how Jesus completely fulfilled the 70 Weeks prophecy perfectly, or you can read about it in Adam Clarke's commentary or Matthew Henry's commentary.
Thinking of starting a mobile BeastMark Chip Removal/Mexican Lunch van franchise..."We got the salsa, you bring the chips".
We got a guy at work we call shifty cause he can't drive a stick...and another guy who got botched neck surgery that left his head a little tilted to one side...we call him "ten after six".
Really? Well you've got a really big problem. You see 70 weeks of years running concurrently without any gaps leaves you at about 40 A.D. And absolutely nothing significant biblically or historically happened at 40 A.D. Maybe you don't understand when the starting gun goes off for Daniel chapter 9, but any astute Bible student knows exactly when to start.
This 70 A.D. preterism business is a heresy plain and simple. It is also preposterous, and an insult anyone's intelligence.
I agree that Preterism is as stupid as Futurism, because BOTH are Jesuit ideas! Hence the names Jesuit Preterism and Jesuit Futurism!
I am a Protestant Historicist.
>Historicism rightly teaches that Daniel's prophecy identifies the starting point of the 70 Weeks as "the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem" which was the comprehensive decree of Artaxerxes (which Cyrus' and Darius' decrees were not) in his seventh year reign (Ezra 7 KJV) which extra-Biblical archaeology has proven to be 457 B.C.
>It teaches the first "seven weeks" (49 years) saw the restoration of the streets (wide places), walls, temple, city of Jerusalem during the "troublous times" of Tobias and Sanballot and the rest of the enemy's of God. (Ezra 4 KJV; Nehemiah 2:17-20 KJV)
>It teaches that when the "seven weeks" and the subsequent "three score and two weeks" (69 Weeks) elapsed, Jesus was anointed/baptized as "Messiah the Prince", as evidenced by His soon following declaration "the time is fulfilled" which marked the end of the 69th Week and the beginning of the 70th Week and His 3 1/2 year ministry. Jesus was anointed/baptized in 27 A.D., as evidenced by Luke 3:1 KJV, which year was the only year those three reigned simultaneously and Luke's almost certain use of the Syro-Macedonian calendar confirms the year as 27 A.D, and if you doubt Luke, a Greek, used this calendar, read this: https://www.nowoezone.com/NTC06.htm
>It teaches that "after" the 69 Weeks, He was to be killed...which week followed the 69th Week? Yes, the 70th, which means His crucifixion was after the 69th Week and during the 70th Week, which means you cannot rip it up from the pages of history and send it down to the end of time if Jesus was crucified during that week! (Some of you Futurists are at least willing to admit this, and thus have modified your flawed idea to to allow at least half of the 70th Week to remain nailed down in history and speak of a "three and half years tribulation" which is still error, but nevertheless...).
>It teaches during which Jesus confirmed the covenant for seven years, first by Himself and through "them that heard Him" (Hebrews 2:3 KJV), was cut off in the midst of the week after 3 1/2 years of ministry and caused the sacrificial system of the Jews to cease forever to be of any significance in the sight of God (Matthew 27:51 KJV)
Like I said, He fulfilled every point of the prophecy, because prophecy is Christ centered, not Antichrist centered.