Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

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I delivered mail to a Pentecostal church which recently moved out and now it's an Islamic Center. :oops: The very first one in my city.

Did you go in and tell those moslems they need to repent of being moslem and get born again through Jesus?

Or wuz you skeered they'd kill you?
 
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So have you???
I have seen hundreds of baptisms in my life and they all looked the same as mine. There was nothing physically supernatural about it. It was an act of faith without sight. There was no expectation or demand to experience a tangible supernatural event.

So have you???
 
And another heads up, the bible reveals everyone, and everyone includes you, will be accountable to God for every idle word they speak.
I suggest that every Pentecostal who labels their babble as direct words of the Holy Spirit will be held accountable.

Speaking in the name of God is foolishness and damnable. That goes also to those Pentecostals who claim to be able to interpret the words of the Holy Spirit into human language.

Are you one of them or just a defender of the sin?

Also, those dreamers who prophesy in the name of God. Jeremiah 23:32
 
Water baptism and speaking in tongues are good when understood in light of NT teachings, which are that the first is symbolic rather than salvific and the second is a gift only some receive.

In John 3 water obviously refers to physical birth rather than to baptism.
So how would you have debated with Paul, would you harmonized scripture to convince him he was wrong?

I call Paul a doctor, he sees some clients, ask them a question when they said no (they have not received the Holy Ghost) Paul asks more questions to find the root of the problem.

I learned from Paul, that is why in the past you said when you get filled with the Holy Ghost you are filled with love.

I challenged you and asked more, can you show me in HIS word where that is true?

We know what happened when you couldn't, you couldn't convince me you were right, no way would you be able to convince Paul.

Bud, I'm just in the seed business ALL IN LOVE.
 
GODS word says what it says.

You have to be kidding, natural birth?

You didn't know when we are born naturally, that is when we receive our sins?

So your saying JESUS says we need to be full of sin and receive the Holy Ghost to Enter.

We all say what we say and John 3 says the obvious: that we must be born physically in order to exist and we must be reborn spiritually in order to receive forgiveness for our sins.
 
I have seen hundreds of baptisms in my life and they all looked the same as mine. There was nothing physically supernatural about it. It was an act of faith without sight. There was no expectation or demand to experience a tangible supernatural event.

So have you???
So you havent! That is why I asked, sure didn't think so.

Sad, were they in JESUS name?

One has to ask themselves why do people get baptized "in the name of" the father and the son and the Holy Ghost if NO ONE WAS EVER baptized that way in HIS word?

How did that start?

Why do they do it that way then?

In EVERY recored case it was done "IN THE NAME OF" which is JESUS!!! Look for your self.

SO, SO many people today don't just take GODS word as 100% truth, they follow men.

JESUS said in,

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The frist time someone was filled born of Spirit,

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Peter, PETER the one with the KEYS to Heaven says that's what happens when you are,

Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

JESUS says in Mark 16:17,

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

So as you see, if you have not been born of WATER and of SPIRIT you can't enter!!!!

It may be too late for you anyway?

Matthew 12:31-32
King James Version
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

I for sure can't do any judging, I can only share HIS word your walk is beteen you and JESUS as mine is.
 
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So how would you have debated with Paul, would you harmonized scripture to convince him he was wrong?

I call Paul a doctor, he sees some clients, ask them a question when they said no (they have not received the Holy Ghost) Paul asks more questions to find the root of the problem.

I learned from Paul, that is why in the past you said when you get filled with the Holy Ghost you are filled with love.

I challenged you and asked more, can you show me in HIS word where that is true?

We know what happened when you couldn't, you couldn't convince me you were right, no way would you be able to convince Paul.

Bud, I'm just in the seed business ALL IN LOVE.

Paul was in the business of harmonizing the OT with the new Gospel. He said that we receive love when the HS enters our hearts (Rom. 5:5). I think you are in the nut business, because you ignore these seeds/truths.
 
We all say what we say and John 3 says the obvious: that we must be born physically in order to exist and we must be reborn spiritually in order to receive forgiveness for our sins.
AMEN, we must be born naturaly to be about to be REBORN spiritualy!

That is why in John 3:5 people say water mean naturly is simple folinshess.

If we were not born how could we read HIS word?
How could we repent?
How could we get baptized in JESUS name?
How could JESUS fill us with the Holy Ghost?
How could you be REBORN?

When we get born, we are born in sin, natural.

When we get baptized in JESUS name that is when we get rid of those sins.

THAT is when we received forgivness of our sins, NO OTHER WAY.

Of cours we still need to Holy Ghost.

Sir, I do want to thank you for not putting me on ignore or not responding.

So many people here do.
 
Paul was in the business of harmonizing the OT with the new Gospel. He said that we receive love when the HS enters our hearts (Rom. 5:5). I think you are in the nut business, because you ignore these seeds/truths.
LOL, when you break open the nut you get the seed.

Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

You do know Paul is speaking to the Church leaders not the unsaved right?

First we need to be filled with the Holy Ghost!!!!

Paul knows all about what happens when we are,

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
 
AMEN, we must be born naturaly to be about to be REBORN spiritualy!

That is why in John 3:5 people say water mean naturly is simple folinshess.

If we were not born how could we read HIS word?
How could we repent?
How could we get baptized in JESUS name?
How could JESUS fill us with the Holy Ghost?
How could you be REBORN?

When we get born, we are born in sin, natural.

When we get baptized in JESUS name that is when we get rid of those sins.

THAT is when we received forgivness of our sins, NO OTHER WAY.

Of cours we still need to Holy Ghost.

Sir, I do want to thank you for not putting me on ignore or not responding.

So many people here do.

I don’t put people on ignore but I do avoid arguing about the same thing over and over, such as WB with you, so I won’t say more about that.
 
If we were not born how could we read HIS word?
Didn't the written languages evolve from the Sumerian cuneiforms? Or how exactly did mankind develop the ability to write the written spoken word, or does it even matter?
 
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I don’t put people on ignore but I do avoid arguing about the same thing over and over, such as WB with you, so I won’t say more about that.

Thank you, yea I never argue about HIS word I let it do the talking.

I keep my opinion out of it and don't say anything I can't back up with HIS word.
 
Thank you, yea I never argue about HIS word I let it do the talking.

I keep my opinion out of it and don't say anything I can't back up with HIS word.

We both share our opinions about what we think Scripture means. IMO you ignore the seed and eat the shell regarding WB.
 
Didn't the written languages evolve from the Sumerian cuneiforms? Or how exactly did mankind develop the ability to write the written spoken word, or does it even matter?
No idea,

Moses writing the frist 5 books and was not even alive at that time.

The Holy Spirit led him!

Just like it does today, of course you have to have it first.

GOD is the same today, yesterday and forever.

JESUS told HIS DISCIPLES not to go out without the promise of the father,

Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

This happened, the promise.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

So we shouldn't go out either.
 
I delivered mail to a Pentecostal church which recently moved out and now it's an Islamic Center. :oops: The very first one in my city.
The phrase "the enemy is at the gate" warns of imminent danger, often used to signify that a crisis,
threat, or opposition has arrived and demands immediate action. Historically or metaphorically, it
means the threat is no longer distant, but right at the boundary. The phrase often serves as a call
to stand strong, pay attention, and act decisively, particularly in spiritual warfare or personal struggles.

Islam was not seen as an enemy to those who hated Christianity. Standing strong and acting decisively
to them meant letting the enemy in, because their deception told them, Islam is a religion of peace.
 
As long as your a muslim.
Why misquote me like that? Lots of non-Muslims are deceived in the same way. You
totally missed the point of my post to confine the deception regarding Islam to Muslims.
 
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Why misquote me like that? Lots of non-Muslims are deceived in the same way. You
totally missed the point of my post to confine the deception regarding Islam to Muslims.
I think he was saying that Islam is a religion of peace if your a muslim, otherwise it isn't.
 
Really, didn't the LORD tell to Moses to hew thee two tables of stone and he would write upon these tables the words that Moses would use to teach the people to read. Up until the Exodus, there is no evidence that any civilization had the ability to communicate using the written spoken word. The Egyptian hieroglyphics required a person to be told what the message was and the symbols only bring in remembrance what they had been told.
The Holy Spirit led him! Just like it does today, of course you have to have it first.
The earth brought forth the moving creature in the waters and in the dry ground in whose nostrils is the breath of life, so course you have to have the pneuma. The body without the breath is dead. It is like the parable, The wind (pnuema/breath) bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

GOD is the same today, yesterday and forever.
The eternal One that has always existed, doesn't change in form or nature, thereby those two immutable things it which it is impossible for God to lie; those who believe he came in the flesh have no excuse for being deceived.