Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!

[Rosesrock]

Bow I did read the bible. I never said I didn't.


Rose, once again your using a book as a source. That's like me using a harry potter book to prove my points. Use statistics and facts not a fairy tale.

Thus my point, the word is not a fairy tale, which shows me where you are. Again, i wish you the best,

 

[bowharp]

Don't you see being gay is not a choice. I think I would believe real gay people and statitstics instead of some random sentences from a biased article.

if only you knew about the forefather of statistics some were even Christians..........,

#sighs#

 

[PinkieKleenlolz]

Cield where? I seen that nowhere. I don't see how its dangerous. That's like me saying all black people are criminals. You just have no evidence. The dangers of being gay are the same as straight.

 

[CeileDe]

Don't you see being gay is not a choice. I think I would believe real gay people and statitstics instead of some random sentences from a biased article.

Read post #38. There are plenty of statistics out there that prove homosexuality is dangerous to an individual.

 

[Utah]

Its not. People are born a sexuality. No one can choose to just be attracted to a certain gender.

I'm a straight, White, Christian man.

Where can I find a homosexual chat site to join and proclaim my faith in Jesus?

 

[bowharp]

Cield where? I seen that nowhere. I don't see how its dangerous. That's like me saying all black people are criminals. You just have no evidence. The dangers of being gay are the same as straight.

what you see around you is not made by probability, everything has a purpose.

 

[Utah]

People be like, joining Christian chat sites and talking bout genitalia attraction, yo!

 

[PinkieKleenlolz]

How is it. Suicide is caused by depression, personal life, and influences. And if you didnt know, some gay people commit suicide because family don't accept them or their parents give no love. Once again your statement is biased.

 

[oldhermit]

Anyone who has not reported this thread or its sister thread needs to do so. This guy is nothing but a troll and needs to be removed from the site.

 

[bowharp]

I mean most of gods sins are disregarded since most involve killing half the human species. To me the bible shouldn't reflect how you judge people.

how come you are speaking on behalf of the bible when you haven't read it cover to cover

 

[PinkieKleenlolz]

"But the bible says its a sin"
And my sisters hand written book says black people are a sin. So I guess if a book says something, it must be true!

"They can't reproduce"
Yes but they can adopt and raise a family to kids with no parents, plus isn't our race already over populated?

 

[Called4Christ]

Hi Pinkie.
You mentioned earlier that you'd rather hear from gay people or statistics instead of the bible (paraphrasing). As someone who would naturally struggle with same sex attraction if not for the grace and strength of God, I believe I may be of some help on this matter. I invite you to respond to my previous post, which states that whether or not it is a choice is irrelevant because acting on that attraction is a choice and that choice is still a sin, just as it would be a sin for a heterosexual person to act out sexually.

 

[PinkieKleenlolz]

Oldhermit I am just having a conversation. You just want me banned because I don't believe in the same thing.

 

[Jimbone]

See this is why most people don't talk or are involved with Christians. They base all their life and feelings towards an imaginary person. And then you act like those who don't agree are trolls.

See that's where you're wrong, and also where everything always gets so sticky. God is not imaginary, He is more real than anything in this fake, deceptive, illusionary world. I absolutely agree that you may have been born with the attractions you have, and have a huge list of attractions to things against God's rules myself, like we ALL do. We are ALL born broken. The biggest misconception, in my opinion, is that YOU are to change it yourself to join the "Christian social club". I saw it that way for at least 5 years before He really saved me. See that's what becoming a Christian really is, it is coming to a place that you submit your self totally to His will while believing that Jesus died on the cross to pay the debt to God for your transgressions, and then the Holy Spirit comes into you regenerating you, ripping the veil removing all doubt that He is, and Jesus is the ONLY Truth. You don’t change yourself, He changes you and He works in each one of us personally and individually. What you think Christianity is, is just what this world has told you it is, to find out the Truth you have to go deep and ask Him directly. I personally love you brother, and if I can help you in any way, with questions, or my own testimony of how I was brought into Truth please don’t hesitate to ask. I’m sure there are others here willing to do the same as well. I am glad you’re here though, and feel there’s a reason for it.

 

[CeileDe]

Cield where? I seen that nowhere. I don't see how its dangerous. That's like me saying all black people are criminals. You just have no evidence. The dangers of being gay are the same as straight.

You asked for statistics and there are plenty out there. I'm not going to do the work for you. If you are really interested in truth then you will take the time to research this. Stop Trolling

 

[posthuman]

being born a sinner is not a choice.

 

[Jimbone]

Anyone who has not reported this thread or its sister thread needs to do so. This guy is nothing but a troll and needs to be removed from the site.

Come on man, this person is lost and came to a Christian site to bring up these issues. Now they very well may have come to troll, but God may have directed him here to hear some truth, and I think we should start with love and then if they insist on just going against the grain to cause trouble then maybe something should be done, but not just "you are trolling and should be kicked out", all that does is reinforce that we are the hateful bigoted people the world tells them we are. I don’t disagree with the points you’re making, just the way you’re condemning and dismissing him straight away.

 

[CeileDe]

Come on man, this person is lost and came to a Christian site to bring up these issues. Now they very well may have come to troll, but God may have directed him here to hear some truth, and I think we should start with love and then if they insist on just going against the grain to cause trouble then maybe something should be done, but not just "you are trolling and should be kicked out", all that does is reinforce that we are the hateful bigoted people the world tells them we are. I don’t disagree with the points you’re making, just the way you’re condemning and dismissing him straight away.

seems a little fishy that this person and one other joined at the same time to argue homosexuality. Think it is more of an attack than someone truly seeking God

 

[oldhermit]

Come on man, this person is lost and came to a Christian site to bring up these issues. Now they very well may have come to troll, but God may have directed him here to hear some truth, and I think we should start with love and then if they insist on just going against the grain to cause trouble then maybe something should be done, but not just "you are trolling and should be kicked out", all that does is reinforce that we are the hateful bigoted people the world tells them we are. I don’t disagree with the points you’re making, just the way you’re condemning and dismissing him straight away.

This guy is not looking for answers or truth. He has absolutely not regard for the Word of God and regards God as nothing more than an imaginary fairy tale. This guy is selling homosexuality and he needs to be removed from this site.

 

[Jimbone]

seems a little fishy that this person and one other joined at the same time to argue homosexuality. Think it is more of an attack than someone truly seeking God

That is very possible and I don't deny that could be the case, but shouldn't we at least try before sending them packing. Maybe if they received some kindness instead of attacks and accusations right away it would help change their minds or at least make them think about it.